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Hi all -
I have a couple questions regarding things our Vegas Gamers Group have seen.
1st - Ioun Stones. Can they be implanted into the arm like the picture per Seeker of Secrets? The PFS Guide doesn't list this as being a no-go, but with the concept of cracked Ioun stones, I'm unsure. If regular Ioun stones can be implanted, can cracked?
2nd - Can a holy symbol from a 1st level cleric become a bonded item for a 1 Cleric / 1 Wizard? Can that holy symbol/bonded item become enchanted? Can that enchantment be increased at a later point?
Thanks for the answers. I appreciate any clarifications.
Theocrat Issak
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1st - Ioun Stones. Can they be implanted into the arm like the picture per Seeker of Secrets? The PFS Guide doesn't list this as being a no-go, but with the concept of cracked Ioun stones, I'm unsure. If regular Ioun stones can be implanted, can cracked?
As far as can it be done as per the SoS book, yes. SoS is part of the Core Assumption and this material does not appear to be expressly excluded from Chapter 13 of the PFSGOP. Giving a quick re-read to the text on page 45-46 of SoS I don't see where it makes any differentiation on the type of ioun stone to be implanted.
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As the rules stand, I don't believe that you can bond a holy symbol. The bonded item section spells out specific items that you can use (amulet, ring, wand, staff, weapon).
However, I think it's an interesting idea. You should post it in the rule discussion area. Maybe they might add more bonded items in Ulimate Magic.
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As the rules stand, I don't believe that you can bond a holy symbol. The bonded item section spells out specific items that you can use (amulet, ring, wand, staff, weapon).
However, I think it's an interesting idea. You should post it in the rule discussion area. Maybe they might add more bonded items in Ulimate Magic.
If your holy symbol is a necklace you could, since it would function as an amulet.
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If your holy symbol is a necklace you could, since it would function as an amulet.As the rules stand, I don't believe that you can bond a holy symbol. The bonded item section spells out specific items that you can use (amulet, ring, wand, staff, weapon).
However, I think it's an interesting idea. You should post it in the rule discussion area. Maybe they might add more bonded items in Ulimate Magic.
Perhaps.
I think that there is probably a difference, but neither item (holy symbol, amulet) is really given a full rules description. By using the same logic, you could buy a signet ring which shows your holy symbol, and use that as your bonded item.Not sure that is the intention, but as I said, I think being able to bond a holy symbol for a Cleric/Wizard is a good idea.
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If your holy symbol is a necklace you could, since it would function as an amulet.Perhaps.
I think that there is probably a difference, but neither item (holy symbol, amulet) is really given a full rules description. By using the same logic, you could buy a signet ring which shows your holy symbol, and use that as your bonded item.
Not sure that is the intention, but as I said, I think being able to bond a holy symbol for a Cleric/Wizard is a good idea.
Considering a holy symbol can be a tattoo on your ass, I think it's fair game to assume that a holy symbol can be a necklace (or a ring for that matter). ;-)
Okay going serious for a second. A lot of times the writers assume common sense, if an item is not described to the level of detail of "this is a necklace" or "this is a ring" then I think a certain amount of flexibility is allowed. Letting a Paladin or Cleric inscribe his holy symbol on his shield (or weapon) is certainly thematic and appropriate in a lot of cases ("I raise my sword to Iomede to turn the undead around me"). Also, there are also slot items (specifically those in the Gods book) which can be used as holy symbols, so that in itself lets me believe that magic items and holy symbols can be one in the same (since they are in those cases).
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Considering a holy symbol can be a tattoo on your ass, I think it's fair game to assume that a holy symbol can be a necklace (or a ring for that matter). ;-)If your holy symbol is a necklace you could, since it would function as an amulet.Perhaps.
I think that there is probably a difference, but neither item (holy symbol, amulet) is really given a full rules description. By using the same logic, you could buy a signet ring which shows your holy symbol, and use that as your bonded item.
Not sure that is the intention, but as I said, I think being able to bond a holy symbol for a Cleric/Wizard is a good idea.
While you could tattoo your holy symbol there (or anywhere else for that matter), you couldn't cast spells with that holy symbol as your divine focus. You need to have your divine focus in your hand for any spell that requies one. I don't think scratching your ass would qualify as part of the spellcasting. :)
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While you could tattoo your holy symbol there (or anywhere else for that matter), you couldn't cast spells with that holy symbol as your divine focus. You need to have your divine focus in your hand for any spell that requies one. I don't think scratching your ass would qualify as part of the spellcasting. :)
I'm referring to the core Birthmark trait, which doesn't specify where it must be located (and it still works). So yes, it is possible to moon undead to death.
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I'm referring to the core Birthmark trait, which doesn't specify where it must be located (and it still works). So yes, it is possible to moon undead to death.*Mustn't... Giggle Madly... at work!*
Or just before bed and waking the wife. (Who insists on being in on the joke but then doesn't get it)
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Being that this is a PFS play character that is using the idea of the bonded item/holy symbol, I'm going to have to say no, at least at this time. We're running a special August Game Day tomorrow night, so I really appreciate the responses - even the funny ones!
As for the implanted stones, we've got some time to fully get a right answer.
Thanks
Theocrat Issak
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Birthmarks aren't tattoos. You didn't decide to put it there. It is also not relevent in this discussion, since you are using the trait to gain an exception to the rules, wherein you don't need to present the symbol in spellcasting or ability use. If you buy a tattoo symbol, you still need to present it. Peesonally, if nothing else, I would rule dropping myour oants an mooning someone as provoking an AoO.
I would allow it as an amulet (although you still need to present it by holding it), but I think a ring would be too small.