Toothy, Razortusk, and Tusked (Okay I'll bite)... I'm comfused


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Toothy and Razortusk ar in the APG. How do these work? Is there an implied relationship, or are they 2 ways to get the same effect?

Toothy says you get a D4 Piercing 'primary' attack and that is pretty much all it says.

Razortusk says you can do a D4 'primary' 'bite' attack or secondary attack in a full attack action at -5. it doesn't have 'Toothy' as a pr-req only 1/2orc.

...So can you only use Toothy as a primary attack? Razortusk can be used as either?

This is further confused because there is a 'trait' in 'Orcs of Golarion' called 'Tusked' that does the same thing as RazorTusk?

...So there is a 'replacement trait' a 'race trait' and a 'feat' all of which do the same thing... sort of. They all are described differently.

...I'm confused


They pretty much have the same effects, save from being primary or secondary, and don't stack.

Yes, Paizo cares big deal for the health of your tusks.

Liberty's Edge

They really like the idea of Horcs taking bites out of their enemies. I don't see anything wrong with that, in fact I am happy there are a couple different ways to get access to this feature.

And no they don't stack, so don't pick more than one of them up. That is unless you have a Generous DM who is willing to change it up a little for you :D


Piety Godfury wrote:

Toothy and Razortusk ar in the APG. How do these work? Is there an implied relationship, or are they 2 ways to get the same effect?

Toothy says you get a D4 Piercing 'primary' attack and that is pretty much all it says.

Razortusk says you can do a D4 'primary' 'bite' attack or secondary attack in a full attack action at -5. it doesn't have 'Toothy' as a pr-req only 1/2orc.

...So can you only use Toothy as a primary attack? Razortusk can be used as either?

This is further confused because there is a 'trait' in 'Orcs of Golarion' called 'Tusked' that does the same thing as RazorTusk?

...So there is a 'replacement trait' a 'race trait' and a 'feat' all of which do the same thing... sort of. They all are described differently.

...I'm confused

You can use any "primary" attack type as a "secondary" attack, you just have a -5 to your attack roll if you use it as a secondary attack. For instance, if you have a claw attack and a bite attack, you can make either one of them your primary and the other one your secondary. The "Toothy" description is lacking that explanation, probably just to save space, but the rule is still there and you can still do the same thing with "Toothy" as you can with the "Razortusk" feat.


Piety Godfury wrote:

Toothy and Razortusk ar in the APG. How do these work? Is there an implied relationship, or are they 2 ways to get the same effect?

Toothy says you get a D4 Piercing 'primary' attack and that is pretty much all it says.

Razortusk says you can do a D4 'primary' 'bite' attack or secondary attack in a full attack action at -5. it doesn't have 'Toothy' as a pr-req only 1/2orc.

...So can you only use Toothy as a primary attack? Razortusk can be used as either?

This is further confused because there is a 'trait' in 'Orcs of Golarion' called 'Tusked' that does the same thing as RazorTusk?

...So there is a 'replacement trait' a 'race trait' and a 'feat' all of which do the same thing... sort of. They all are described differently.

...I'm confused

I was wondering the same thing, especially since traits are "half-feats" and then you get a feat which does what the trait does without any other bonus. Can we get an official ruling on this?

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