Ok, my first post here so please be kind...
We are about to start a campaign where we are going to play the offspring of one of our Old Heroic Characters. I have decided it is going to be a child of a Wizard/Rogue I played back in the day of D&D 2nd edition.
My question to you is as follows: How does magic affect one's offspring?
The reason I ask this is my Mage/Rogue was rez'd several times in fact to may times to explain. But during this process he was brought back as several different Races(Started as a Elf, was a Satyr, Halfling, Minatar, to name a few and ended as a Elf again). He also lost his original body in Ravenloft to Strahd, again don't ask. He was also the first one to gain the ability to use Wild Magic in our Campaign be it NPC or PC.
I figure all this has messed him up a bit including how it would affect his offspring. I was thinking that his offspring would be a Tiefling but then I could be way off base here so any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
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Welcome to the boards, Gary!
Any of those things could be a backstory reason for one of the several sorcerer bloodlines, assuming that is the character class you are choosing.
There are no specific written rules for your question. It would ultimately fall to you and your GM to agree on the effects and what bonuses/penalties, abilities, or whatever your character would have as a result.
Yah that is what I found through my research too. I also was thinking that but I believe the child would become a wizard so that leaves out the Sorcerers bloodline as a option.
One the other hand, the multiple reincarnations of the father and his link to wild magic would be a prefect fit for a bloodline (aberrant? shapechanger?) and some spontaneous or erratic sorcerer magic, instead of academic wizard magic.
Ok, my first post here so please be kind...
We are about to start a campaign where we are going to play the offspring of one of our Old Heroic Characters. I have decided it is going to be a child of a Wizard/Rogue I played back in the day of D&D 2nd edition.
My question to you is as follows: How does magic affect one's offspring?
The reason I ask this is my Mage/Rogue was rez'd several times in fact to may times to explain. But during this process he was brought back as several different Races(Started as a Elf, was a Satyr, Halfling, Minatar, to name a few and ended as a Elf again). He also lost his original body in Ravenloft to Strahd, again don't ask. He was also the first one to gain the ability to use Wild Magic in our Campaign be it NPC or PC.
I figure all this has messed him up a bit including how it would affect his offspring. I was thinking that his offspring would be a Tiefling but then I could be way off base here so any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
That sounds like an interesting character. However, I don't see anything in the character background that would lead to Tiefling as written in the 3.5 rules. Of course the obvious question is what was your character when the child was conceived? Assuming it was elf because conception happened after adventuring ended, the child would have elf genes, mized with whoever happened to let him impregnate them. If one of the other races then that race and whatever the bedmate was.
However, as a DM I agree with you that that mixed-up background could easily lead to some genetic quirks, and I would think your DM would be happy to work with you to incorporate something into the character. Could be anything from vestigial horns and added strength (and probably decreased intelligence or charisma to balance) from the minotaur to some fey magic abilities (and vulnerabilities to balance) from the satyr to perhaps something as drastic as being a mongrelman character from 2nd and 3rd editions. If you were to play a sorcerer I would think fey bloodline would be a natural.
Good luck playing what sounds like an interesting character.
For Pathfinder, it really sounds like a good explanation for a sorcerer bloodline.
Mostly, however, you can play the offspring as whatever you want. Dad's reincarnations have been such a blender that the son or daughter could be born as any race and it would make metaphysical sense.
It would also explain why a halfling with two elven parents, for example, could actually be their child and not adopted like he thought all along. Ditto with his minotaur twin sister.
This also might explain why mom left after their birth. Elves can be kind of racist that way, and if dad didn't bother to mention to mom about the blender reincarnations until after she gave birth to a cow girl and a hairy-footed midget...?
Looks like that wizards had fun lol
Well, we haven't got Tieflings (demi-demons) yet, afaik, but I think that a half-elf could work well. Btw, the mother? maybe a she-werewolf? surprise me :D
You sure want to check the free "Traits" document for more flavor. If you have the Advanced Player's Guide, the alternate Racial features and the new Traits could be useful too.
Thanks all for your input it is appreciated. I am getting a sense that most of you would agree with some type of bloodline trait thing over the racial thing.
So what you're saying is use the bloodline trait maybe abberrent or Arcane and then build your character from that?
I was thinking along those lines originally but...
A little more about my Character:
Was Male
Starting Race: Elf
Ending Race: Elf
Was specialist mage Wild magic
Was reincarnated a total of like 12 times as 8 or 9 different races including minitar, halfling, and satyr.
Was also a Rogue
I figure most likely the mother was a female elf student of his but not saying she didn't have some pact with a demon to gain power.
I also figured she took off due to the child but not sure why as of yet. My thinking was maybe she made a pact with a demon and he was promised her first born and she didn't want to give her child up so took off.
These are just a few things I have to deal with when making up this new character.
Also my Wizard/Rogue was quite high level.
Personality: Greedy, Selfish, Loyal to his few friends, he was mistrusted by most of his friends be it warranted or unwarranted. He was also covetous, he collected magic gems and rings. He was creative and did create several spells.
He also did some spelljammer.
He did end up in Ravenloft like 5 times and if you know Ravenloft the curse of that land could have taken its affect too leading to a Tiefling offspring.
Did you consider a changeling?
The shapechanging abilities would be the result of the multiples reincarnations of the father.
I figure most likely the mother was a female elf student of his but not saying she didn't have some pact with a demon to gain power.
I also figured she took off due to the child but not sure why as of yet. My thinking was maybe she made a pact with a demon and he was promised her first born and she didn't want to give her child up so took off.
These are just a few things I have to deal with when making up this new character.
I'd be careful with that demon pact thing. There are a few evil, nasty DMs I know who would just take that dangling plot thread and run with it. If you're looking to be pursued by demons throughout your whole adventuring career (and who wouldn't?) then run with it.
Seriously, this sounds like a very unique and fun character that I'd love to have in my game. But I would use that plot thread mercilessly any time the group seemed to be having things too easy and getting a little cocky. Pop! In teleports PO'd demon and minions looking to collect what he thinks is owed him. Fun and hilarity ensue.
No I haven't thought of a changeling for I couldn't find a reference to it in pathfinder. So I never really thought of it.
Man if you only knew our group and you are right anyone of us as gamers and DM's would run with that.
We had one group where one of the characters was running from assassins sent after him. We never really knew why they were after him but it did add some flavor to our adventures.
I am just saying that as far as tieflings go my character was a wizard did tend to grab for power and chances are he would be attracted to a women with a like mind/passion.
But I do like the bloodline twist on things that people have been suggesting.
Hell we could go as far as saying the god of magic had her hand in this somehow. She could of infused some celestial blood into him in hopes of calming him who is to say.
I am just saying anything and everything is possible with this one and was looking for possibilities which you all have been freely giving and for that I thank you all.
I played an elf mage/thief in 2e who was probably my favorite character in all my years of playing. He was the only mage and thief in the group, so he got a lot of face time. I also played him well, even if he did manage to gouge the treasure a bit before his buddies got there. Good folks are easy to fool when you're CN.
Given the massive morphing his daddy underwent, almost anything is conceiveable. The kid couldn't be just normal. That's boring.
I'm in the bloodline camp. Sorcerers are cooler than they used to be, and you can really develop a theme with it. As far as your DM goes, your daddy most likely made a lot of enemies, for lots of different reasons.
Tell him about the dad, then let him surprise you in play. "Sins of the fathers," and all that. The kid doesn't really know a lot about his father. Perhaps he's adventuring to learn more, and finding that daddy wasn't quite the upstanding man of steel he supposed.
Plot hook heaven for your DM. :)
Just got back from a discussion with the guy who is going to DM this group and gave him several options:
Tiefling
Bloodline but not a sorcerer,
Just a regular race like elf,
or a child of Elves that was like a halfling, minotar, or something.The DM laughed at this option as I was explaining it and suggested a Minotar knowing my character as he did.
He stated he would allow any of those it was up to me to decide. He did say that I had to be able to explain it and if I chose Tiefling I may have to start at like -1000 xp or something to help balance the group.
The DM knows my Mage/Rogue fairly well and realized any of these could be logical choices based on my character even the tiefling.
Ok here is what I came up with for how he could have a Tiefling as a child. Darkforce is his name and the following is what I came up with, input is appreciated.
Darkforce’s many appearances to Ravenloft have garnered unknown attention from the dark powers on that plane. That along with his propensity of cheating death as well as his ability to manipulate the Weave as he does (Wild Magic) has made him much more susceptible to the dark powers even on the Material Plane.
So when Darkforce got married and had his first child, that child was not born of this plane but was actually born an outsider (Tiefling). This unusual birth scared his wife so much that it caused her to flee in the middle of the night without a word of warning leaving Darkforce to raise the child on his own.