Magic Jar Question


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Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Magic Jar Except:
Attempting to possess a body is a full-round action. It is blocked by protection from evil or a similar ward. You possess the body and force the creature's soul into the magic jar unless the subject succeeds on a Will save. Failure to take over the host leaves your life force in the magic jar, and the target automatically succeeds on further saving throws if you attempt to possess its body again.

Does this mean that a person who makes his save is forever immune to my magic jar spells? Or is he only immune for that particular casting of magic jar?

Dark Archive

just that casting. nothing has a "pass the save once and you're immune to all castings of that spell by anyone in the future" clause, otherwise they'd have their buddy cast it with a purposly lowered save dc and be permanently immune. why wait for the enemy to do it


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Name Violation wrote:
just that casting. nothing has a "pass the save once and you're immune to all castings of that spell by anyone in the future" clause, otherwise they'd have their buddy cast it with a purposely lowered save dc and be permanently immune. why wait for the enemy to do it

Well I was thinking that it might make you immune to that caster's magic jar. So if Bob tried to possess you and you made your save, Bob could never possess you with magic jar, but Steve could if he tried.

I'm happy to hear that, that probably isn't the case.


Name Violation wrote:
just that casting. nothing has a "pass the save once and you're immune to all castings of that spell by anyone in the future" clause, otherwise they'd have their buddy cast it with a purposly lowered save dc and be permanently immune. why wait for the enemy to do it

+1

Dark Archive

When the RAW can be read two ways, and there's no way to simply "look it up", then you have no choice but to default to the RAI. I think most anyone would agree that permanent immunity is not what the verbage intended. If your opinion of the RAI is honestly different, then run with it.


Edit: never mind the original text here; I shouldn't make assumptions based on partial information and memory :)

In any case, the issue wouldn't be "forever immunity against magic jar", it would be "forever immunity against that particular caster's magic jar".

I'd consider it a "per casting" thing, personally.

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