I am trying to calculate how some of bestiary creatures' skills are tallied.
With respect to "Cat" on Bestiary page 131, it indicates that the cat has a Climb of +6, and a Strength of 3.
Calculations:
-4 Str bonus
+4 racial bonus
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+0 total
Somewhere, +6 is missing, so I am wondering if claws and/or multiple limbs provide a climb skill bonus?
The only bonus I see listed under the climb skill on Core Rulebook page 91 is +8 if the creature has a climb speed.
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I am trying to calculate how some of bestiary creatures' skills are tallied.
With respect to "Cat" on Bestiary page 131, it indicates that the cat has a Climb of +6, and a Strength of 3.
Calculations:
-4 Str bonus
+4 racial bonus
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+0 totalSomewhere, +6 is missing, so I am wondering if claws and/or multiple limbs provide a climb skill bonus?
The only bonus I see listed under the climb skill on Core Rulebook page 91 is +8 if the creature has a climb speed.
1 rank, and +3 for class skill, so there is only +2 unaccounted for...
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I cannot remember where at all this was said, but I know there is some rule out there about certain tiny and smaller creatures (like the cat) being allowed to use their Dexterity on Climb checks instead of Strength. The Dex of +2 and Climb bonus of +4 equaling a +6 in their final stats would support this.
1 rank, and +3 for class skill, so there is only +2 unaccounted for...I am trying to calculate how some of bestiary creatures' skills are tallied.
With respect to "Cat" on Bestiary page 131, it indicates that the cat has a Climb of +6, and a Strength of 3.
Calculations:
-4 Str bonus
+4 racial bonus
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+0 totalSomewhere, +6 is missing, so I am wondering if claws and/or multiple limbs provide a climb skill bonus?
The only bonus I see listed under the climb skill on Core Rulebook page 91 is +8 if the creature has a climb speed.
I believe the 1 skill rank is already accounted for in their Perception skill of +5: Wis +1, +1 rank, +3 class skill = +5
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I really hope we can have some resolution that supports the genre and style of the game.
I know the Core Rulebook had to have animal stats since there was no Bestiary at the time. The Druid horse has marginally worse stats than the riding horse in bestiary.
But there is no way it be that a knight-type (paladin or cavalier) should be going into battle on a palfrey! (aka riding horse)
Where is my destrier!
Animal companions are just that - primarily companions (like wizard familiars). Although many can be mounts as well, that is secondary.
Knight-types are fully committed to taking the mount into the thick of melee. It doesn't seem right that at 10th level the druid's horse buddy is the same as paladin/cavaliers battle stead.
Yes, the books are all printed now. But it would nice to have an acknowledgement that where is says - 'functions as a druids animal companion' - it just means use the levelling table and apply to choice of mount from EITHER Animal Companion list OR Bestiary.
Please, after 40 years can we finally get mounted knight right! It's great the animals are more survivable now (having literally been in gaming wilderness for so long). Please let this be the time for the noble stead to shine!
a druid's companion IS uber, and so is a pally's. they aren't being gimped, and its still leaps and bounds better than a normal horse
I cannot remember where at all this was said, but I know there is some rule out there about certain tiny and smaller creatures (like the cat) being allowed to use their Dexterity on Climb checks instead of Strength. The Dex of +2 and Climb bonus of +4 equaling a +6 in their final stats would support this.
It's at the top of the Familiar entry in the Bestiary:
"Small animals like these use Dexterity to modify Climb and Swim checks."
It's at the top of the Familiar entry in the Bestiary:
"Small animals like these use Dexterity to modify Climb and Swim checks."
Well, what do you know. They hid it at the very top of the Familar's page. Very sneaky of them. Thanks for giving me the assist on the Perception roll Hogarth!
Well, what do you know. They hid it at the very top of the Familar's page. Very sneaky of them. Thanks for giving me the assist on the Perception roll Hogarth!
Don't thank me; I just did a PRD search for "climb dexterity".