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Something I've often wondered - but it really came to the forefront of my mind while I was running Chapter 10 in Age of Worms (Wormcrawl Fissure) a couple weeks ago:
Are dragons affected by other dragons' fear aura?
Personally I'm surprised dragons are not immune to fear in general. I think they should be. This was a caveat that I added to dragons of late - just cuz I can.
But officially speaking I was wondering if this was ever taken into account.
The encounter sorties in that chapter with various colored dragons swooping in synchronised attacks made me wonder if they each need to be making saves against their "allies" aura.
Does anyone else think that making a dragon flee in fear and become panicked is utterly ridiculous? (magically compelled that is - obviously dragons are intelligent and bent on self-survival and have no qualms about retreating for self-preservation means - but that's not what I'm talking about - I'm talking about magically being compelled to quiver and run like a wussy bi-otch).
Robert
Dragons can have more or less HD, so yes, frightful presence can work on them if a higher HD dragon attacks a lower HD dragon. Your synchronized dive-bombing/strafing run can be done if they form up into a formation that leaves room enough between them to attack without coming into each other's auras. And they don't have to have them up when they strafe. Me, I'd run too if a flight of dragons came out of the sky and aimed for wherever I was standing, and frightful presence has nothing to do with it!
Me, I don't mind the idea of dragons being affected by fear. Affecting a dragon with fear requires bypassing SR and its excellent Will save. Good luck with that. Oh, and be prepared for when it comes back a few minutes later and roasts you for your impertinence;)
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there was something in 3.5 that mentioned dragons being immune /resistant to the FP of other dragons, and some classes got the ability "treated as a dragon for saves against fp"
no i gotta dig threw stuff
*edit, from the 3.5 srd
Frightful Presence (Ex): A young adult or older dragon can unsettle foes with its mere presence. The ability takes effect automatically whenever the dragon attacks, charges, or flies overhead. Creatures within a radius of 30 feet x the dragon’s age category are subject to the effect if they have fewer HD than the dragon. A potentially affected creature that succeeds on a Will save (DC 10 + 1/2 dragon’s HD + dragon’s Cha modifier) remains immune to that dragon’s frightful presence for 24 hours. On a failure, creatures with 4 or less HD become panicked for 4d6 rounds and those with 5 or more HD become shaken for 4d6 rounds. Dragons ignore the frightful presence of other dragons.
Huh. Dragons lost their immunity to frightful presence. That's... odd.
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there was something in 3.5 that mentioned dragons being immune /resistant to the FP of other dragons, and some classes got the ability "treated as a dragon for saves against fp"
no i gotta dig threw stuff
*edit, from the 3.5 srd
Frightful Presence (Ex): A young adult or older dragon can unsettle foes with its mere presence. The ability takes effect automatically whenever the dragon attacks, charges, or flies overhead. Creatures within a radius of 30 feet x the dragon’s age category are subject to the effect if they have fewer HD than the dragon. A potentially affected creature that succeeds on a Will save (DC 10 + 1/2 dragon’s HD + dragon’s Cha modifier) remains immune to that dragon’s frightful presence for 24 hours. On a failure, creatures with 4 or less HD become panicked for 4d6 rounds and those with 5 or more HD become shaken for 4d6 rounds. Dragons ignore the frightful presence of other dragons.
Thank you N.V.
I wonder if that caveat is also true in the dragon description in the PF Bestiary official rules. I'll have to wait till I get home and can read the entry in the PF book.
Robert
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Huh. Dragons lost their immunity to frightful presence. That's... odd.
Hmm, i was just wondering that.
During the Age of Worms game which were using PF rules, a player asked - "Shouldn't these sorties of dragon attacks be causing them to possible flee each other in fear???"
I stopped to think about the ramification of such a thing with all those dragons in the rift doing their frontal assault and I concluded that such a notion would be the most assinine thing ever.
So I said "This just in......your knowledge of dragons reveals to you that they are immune to fear!"
Robert
I wonder if that caveat is also true in the dragon description in the PF Bestiary official rules. I'll have to wait till I get home and can read the entry in the PF book.
I looked it up, and it's not in any of the obvious places. I checked the Frightful Presence universal monster rule, the Frightful Presence entry for Dragons, and the Immunities entry for dragons. None of them mentioned immunity to the frightful presence of dragons. It's possible that it's somewhere less obvious, though.
