Schrodinger's cat?


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I am wondering if my Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook will, like Schrodinger's cat, come in a box, or in one of those padded envelopes?
I ask because my current mailcarrier has the unfortunate habit of trying to put things into the tiny mailbox opening that Will Not Fit, and I doubt he'd try to squeeze a big box in there.

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I'm pretty sure it wouldn't fit into the stiff cardboard envelopes Paizo uses. It will probably come in a box.

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Zeugma wrote:

I am wondering if my Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook will, like Schrodinger's cat, come in a box, or in one of those padded envelopes?

I ask because my current mailcarrier has the unfortunate habit of trying to put things into the tiny mailbox opening that Will Not Fit, and I doubt he'd try to squeeze a big box in there.

Until we actually observe the method of shipment with which your Core Rulebook is shipped, we cannot collapse the waveform probability of it going in either a box or an envelope, and therefore must consider it to will have been shipped simultaneously in both.

Therefore, per the Heisenberg Uncertainty Theorem, the answer to your question is: Yes.

Thanks,
cos

Spoiler:

Two things are true:

  • 1) I love quantum mechanics, and the Schrödinger's Cat thought experiment especially, and,
  • 2) Core Rulebooks are far too large to ship in an envelope, so it'll almost certainly go in a box. :)


I got the GameMastery Guide, which is smaller than the Core Rulebook, in a box. So, the Core Rulebook probably will come in a box. Unless Cosmo folds space-time and sends it through a wormhole right onto your bookshelf.

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Thanks for the answers. Maybe if I don't look at the book, it will come in both a box and an envelope, and then it'll be like having two copies! ;)

...but then I wouldn't be able to read them.

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Evil Genius wrote:
Unless Cosmo folds space-time and sends it through a wormhole right onto your bookshelf.

What is the price of that particular delivery method? ;)

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zylphryx wrote:
Evil Genius wrote:
Unless Cosmo folds space-time and sends it through a wormhole right onto your bookshelf.
What is the price of that particular delivery method? ;)

$-i


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I... have never really liked Schrodinger's cat.

Mostly because... isn't the cat an observer? That always bothers me.

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By observing itself does it change the outcome?


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Cosmo wrote:
Zeugma wrote:


Until we actually observe the method of shipment with which your Core Rulebook is shipped, we cannot collapse the waveform probability of it going in either a box or an envelope, and therefore must consider it to will have been shipped simultaneously in both.

Therefore, per the Heisenberg Uncertainty Theorem, the answer to your question is: Yes.

Thanks,
cos

** spoiler omitted **

You should be careful using the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. I once determined the momentum of one of my books so precisely that it could be anywhere in the universe.


Is this correct Dirac notation for the shipment method?

< x= box | ¥ > = 1

Or, is it:

< x= box | ¥ > + < x= envelope | ¥ > = 1

I never quite figured out Dirac Notation . . .

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My core rulebook came in a box. I looked at it, and it was in perfect condition. Thanks Paizo!

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Zeugma wrote:
My core rulebook came in a box. I looked at it, and it was in perfect condition. Thanks Paizo!

So that's why my box was empty.

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gbonehead wrote:
Zeugma wrote:
My core rulebook came in a box. I looked at it, and it was in perfect condition. Thanks Paizo!
So that's why my box was empty.

Probably.

I can tell you, however, that it was moving at 9/10ths the speed of light.

...that book was MASSIVE.


Why not complain about the delivery guy? I know this seems to be pretty much useless (you hear this all the time).

Maybe you should send yourself a bend bomb: A bend bomb is a mail bomb, but it only explodes if the trigger is bent - like when someone tries to shove the envelope containing it (with the big letters "DO NOT BEND" written on it) into a mailbox even though you're not supposed to...

I have already resolved that when I snap and start my killing spree, I'll start it off with a bunch of those. Mailmen better hope I keep my sanity! ;-)

Drakli wrote:

I... have never really liked Schrodinger's cat.

Mostly because... isn't the cat an observer? That always bothers me.

The problem with Schrödinger's Cat is that Schrödinger never meant it to be real. It was, in fact, something he came up with to show just how ridiculous it is to try and apply quantum mechanics to everything.

A cat has a defined state. Doesn't matter whether you know whether it lives or not, it has, at every moment, a clearly defined state - either alive or dead. Well, once the poison is released, it goes through a transition, you could say that's not a clearly defined state then, but that still isn't the "at once alive and dead" thing.

Even if you replace the life cat with a plush cat and replace the poison with an incendiary agent, Mister McCuddly has, at every moment, a clearly defined state. It's not at once a plush cat and a pile of ash.

Schrödinger's intention was to use what he thought was a pretty clear matter (cats only have one state at a time) to show that quantum mechanics belong to the quantum level. The problem is that some people will believe anything if it's told by a guy in a white coat, so this was spread as "fact".

In a magic world, this would be different, of course. I'd say Quantum Cats (cats with the quantum creature template) in Pathfinder have 1d10 lives at any given time (treat the 0 on the die as 0, not as 10).

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If this were a fantasy world, I'd have Paizo cast "Explosive Runes" on my packages, disguised as "Do Not Bend" stamps. The trigger would be bending the envelope!

Spoiler:

And in good cartoon fashion, the mailcarrier would be exploded, but my precious Paizo package would escape unscathed, and unbent.


Drakli wrote:

I... have never really liked Schrodinger's cat.

Mostly because... isn't the cat an observer? That always bothers me.

Please. Cats would never bother with such a boring task like `observing`. That's why they have humans.


Zeugma wrote:

If this were a fantasy world, I'd have Paizo cast "Explosive Runes" on my packages, disguised as "Do Not Bend" stamps. The trigger would be bending the envelope!

** spoiler omitted **

Usually, explosive runes are triggered when the target reads the words.

So those will never trigger, because no mail man ever reads that stuff. ;-)

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KaeYoss wrote:
Zeugma wrote:

If this were a fantasy world, I'd have Paizo cast "Explosive Runes" on my packages, disguised as "Do Not Bend" stamps. The trigger would be bending the envelope!

** spoiler omitted **

Usually, explosive runes are triggered when the target reads the words.

So those will never trigger, because no mail man ever reads that stuff. ;-)

Curses! Foiled again!

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