Hello,
I'm hoping someone can offer some assistance. A few scenarios that I'm not quite sure how to handle:
- Two combatants treading water, while attacking each other. They both must make swim checks every rnd. and they both have cover?
- One combatant is treading in water, while they other is on the bank. Does the water-combatant get a some sort of minus for attacking the other?
Thank you!
Hello,
I'm hoping someone can offer some assistance. A few scenarios that I'm not quite sure how to handle:
- Two combatants treading water, while attacking each other. They both must make swim checks every rnd. and they both have cover?
- One combatant is treading in water, while they other is on the bank. Does the water-combatant get a some sort of minus for attacking the other?Thank you!
I'd just count swimming as "underwater" and apply the normal penalties for underwater to anyone swimming. In the first scenario that's both of them; in the second it's only one of them (might also give "higher ground" bonus to the guy on land). Oh, and that section talks about cover, too. I think it might have everything you need.
Might give them partial cover from the water. Basically the same as a GM fiat "unfavorable condition."
Might give them partial cover from the water. Basically the same as a GM fiat "unfavorable condition."
Yeah, though in the rules I linked it says that specifically actually (Characters swimming, floating, or treading water on the surface, or wading in water at least chest deep, have improved cover...)
Might give them partial cover from the water. Basically the same as a GM fiat "unfavorable condition."Yeah, though in the rules I linked it says that specifically actually (Characters swimming, floating, or treading water on the surface, or wading in water at least chest deep, have improved cover...)
Sorry, I meant two people treading water attacking each other. Land vs. Water certainly already has the rules there.
I dunno, being underwater vs. treading water. It's really different. May just be those silly physics gettin' in mah game.
Thanks all, that helps. I'm not sure why I was having trouble with this. I suppose I just needed some new eyes.
I dunno, being underwater vs. treading water. It's really different. May just be those silly physics gettin' in mah game.
Sure, you'd be within your rights to assess the cover penalty in that case, although in most cases PCs will then just say "screw it I'll duck my head in and fight them fully underwater," which by the rules is actually way more optimal despite it being terrifically unrealistic.