Herald
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Biggest hole in the earth I have ever seen!
I can't imaging how this will get filled up. It looks like the hole gets bigger as you go deeper.
| Rezdave |
Herald wrote:Can you imagine Orcs and other underdark creature swarming out of that thing?Isn't it nearing the time for the Change?
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Wolfthulhu wrote:Pretty sure this video footage isn't photoshopped.OMG its real!!!
Yes. However, nearly 200 people are reported dead and more are still missing from when Tropical Storm Agatha made landfall this weekend.
It's an impressive picture of the damage Agatha caused, but I think we should keep our gamer-enthusiasm in perspective.
Rez
| Darkwolf |
Wolfthulhu wrote:Pretty sure this video footage isn't photoshopped.OMG its real!!!
Pretty freaky, ain't it?
| Orthos |
Yes. However, nearly 200 people are reported dead and more are still missing from when Tropical Storm Agatha made landfall this weekend.
Yowch, I didn't know that. I'd only heard about the sinkhole, and the article said the building that got swallowed didn't have any occupants present at the time.
yellowdingo
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The frightening thing is that the edges of a sinkhole are always very loose. The question is just how much more is the sinkhole going to take.
Basic subsidence rules: 35 degrees out from vertical measured at the bottom of the cave-in area determines the subsidence area at the surface. :P
Herald
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Herald wrote:The frightening thing is that the edges of a sinkhole are always very loose. The question is just how much more is the sinkhole going to take.Basic subsidence rules: 35 degrees out from vertical measured at the bottom of the cave-in area determines the subsidence area at the surface. :P
The the only qestion is what exactly is the depth of that hole. From the pictures I can't tell if the dark area at he bottom is earth or just darkness.
Herald
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Yes. However, nearly 200 people are reported dead and more are still missing from when Tropical Storm Agatha made landfall this weekend.
It's an impressive picture of the damage Agatha caused, but I think we should keep our gamer-enthusiasm in perspective.
Rez
As someone who has lived in Florida his whole life, they already have my sympathy. Your point is already taken.
And as someone who has seen plenty of sinkholes in his own state, looking at that thing actually makes my blood run cold. It wouldn't be hard to see that half of that city block could be destroyed before it stablizes. Typically here in Florida they like to fill sinkholes with concrete. I can't imagine what filling in a sinkhole of that magnatude would take.
yellowdingo
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yellowdingo wrote:The the only qestion is what exactly is the depth of that hole. From the pictures I can't tell if the dark area at he bottom is earth or just darkness.Herald wrote:The frightening thing is that the edges of a sinkhole are always very loose. The question is just how much more is the sinkhole going to take.Basic subsidence rules: 35 degrees out from vertical measured at the bottom of the cave-in area determines the subsidence area at the surface. :P
They (the various news sources reporting it) have decided the Sinkhole is (a) 330 feet deep, (b)20 metres deep (60 feet), (c)100 feet
Pick one.
| Rezdave |
As someone who has lived in Florida his whole life, they already have my sympathy. Your point is already taken.
And as someone who has seen plenty of sinkholes in his own state, looking at that thing actually makes my blood run cold. It wouldn't be hard to see that half of that city block could be destroyed before it stablizes. Typically here in Florida they like to fill sinkholes with concrete. I can't imagine what filling in a sinkhole of that magnatude would take.
I lived a long time in FL, too. Never heard of filling a sink-hole with concrete. In every area I've been having a sinkhole means you have a depression, a pit or a new pond in the ground, depending upon the size.
R.
Herald
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Herald wrote:As someone who has lived in Florida his whole life, they already have my sympathy. Your point is already taken.
And as someone who has seen plenty of sinkholes in his own state, looking at that thing actually makes my blood run cold. It wouldn't be hard to see that half of that city block could be destroyed before it stablizes. Typically here in Florida they like to fill sinkholes with concrete. I can't imagine what filling in a sinkhole of that magnatude would take.
I lived a long time in FL, too. Never heard of filling a sink-hole with concrete. In every area I've been having a sinkhole means you have a depression, a pit or a new pond in the ground, depending upon the size.
R.
When you have a sinkhole in a subdivision, filling with concrete is generally how they handle it. Same goes for roadways and the like. You have to make double sure that ground won't move again.
| Rezdave |
When you have a sinkhole in a subdivision, filling with concrete is generally how they handle it. Same goes for roadways and the like.
Roads I guess I can understand, but in my experience when a sinkhole ate a house they owner took the insurance pay-out and the neighbors gained a "community water feature".
R.
lastknightleft
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Herald wrote:When you have a sinkhole in a subdivision, filling with concrete is generally how they handle it. Same goes for roadways and the like.Roads I guess I can understand, but in my experience when a sinkhole ate a house they owner took the insurance pay-out and the neighbors gained a "community water feature".
R.
depends your scenario is that a sinkhole ate the house, a lot of times you can get lucky and fill a sinkhole before it eats the house. If thats the case then they try to fill it. and even if it eats a house they still have to attempt to at least plug it enough to stop the growth because sinkholes can continue to grow. If that neighbor doesn't plug that sinkhole his home can join the community water feature. But your right about one thing, if your house is lost to a sinkhole its actually cheaper to take the payout and get a new house than to try and repair the house you lost. I don't know where you're located but in florida a sinkhole that starts small can grow into something massive.
Herald
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Rezdave wrote:depends your scenario is that a sinkhole ate the house, a lot of times you can get lucky and fill a sinkhole before it eats the house. If thats the case then they try to fill it. and even if it eats a house they still have to attempt to at least plug it enough to stop the growth because sinkholes can continue to grow. If that neighbor doesn't plug that sinkhole his home can join the community water feature. But your right about one thing, if your house is lost to a sinkhole its actually cheaper to take the payout and get a new house than to try and repair the house you lost. I don't know where you're located but in florida a sinkhole that starts small can grow into something massive.Herald wrote:When you have a sinkhole in a subdivision, filling with concrete is generally how they handle it. Same goes for roadways and the like.Roads I guess I can understand, but in my experience when a sinkhole ate a house they owner took the insurance pay-out and the neighbors gained a "community water feature".
R.
Even if there is a payout and the homeowner moves the city often steps in to handle the issue one way or another.
yellowdingo
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If you look close at the walls of the hole you can see dark stains marking the boundary of collapse for the underground tunnel (or fissure) that goes in a specific direction under other buildings. This begins as a hole and becomes a long fissure in the earth as it empties into the cavern.
66 feet wide at surface
100 feet deep? (that is merely to the top of the collapse debris) maybe the cavern itself is 300 feet deep.
Herald
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If you look close at the walls of the hole you can see dark stains marking the boundary of collapse for the underground tunnel (or fissure) that goes in a specific direction under other buildings. This begins as a hole and becomes a long fissure in the earth as it empties into the cavern.
66 feet wide at surface
100 feet deep? (that is merely to the top of the collapse debris) maybe the cavern itself is 300 feet deep.
I had a bad feeling about that. Now comes the question on how to deal with it. If they get hit with more hard rain, there is a potential for more damage to the whole block.
That hole will be problem for quite some time and for the people of that city, thats a shame.
If this was out in the countryside, this would be pretty cool because it could stablize and be explorable. Who knows what you could find in that cavern. I wonder if anyone knew it was ther?
| AJCarrington |
While nature can definitely catch one by surprise, man's capacity to make big holes is pretty impressive: Bingham Canyon
| Orthos |
yellowdingo
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| Steven Tindall |
| Orthos |
yellowdingo wrote:? why. what does radar mapping do? If it is a piping vent then it looks like guatemala city is going to be the next pompei.Herald wrote:They are going to loose a large corridor of land next heavy rainstorm. They need to radar map the tunnels now.It just went from bad to worse.
Presumably, if the tunnels continue, there's a chance of further collapse when it rains again. If that happens before the next eruption there may not be a city left to get covered by lava.
yellowdingo
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yellowdingo wrote:? why. what does radar mapping do? If it is a piping vent then it looks like guatemala city is going to be the next pompei.Herald wrote:They are going to loose a large corridor of land next heavy rainstorm. They need to radar map the tunnels now.It just went from bad to worse.
They need to know what they will lose. Before the Ground caved in, they were getting tremors...Darwin has been getting tremors like that - they are like a train travelling past. But we dont have volcanoes - We do however have Kimberlite pipes (from which we get spring water) about a hundred Kilometres to the south.
The Prospect of a Volcano on the coast of Australia...as if there wasnt enough to worry about. They closed all the beaches and banned fishing because of ecoli outbreak and Harbour Polution poisoning the Seafood supply.
We are the only Continent tha doesnt have an active (or recently extinct) volcano.
| Epic Meepo RPG Superstar 2009 Top 16, 2012 Top 32 |
What the scientists are say is; its not a matter of if but when.
Cue disaster movie politician: "I want to reassure the public that there is no need, I repeat, no need to evacuate the city at this time. The alarmist scientific community has greatly exaggerated the dangers of the current situation."
Herald
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Herald wrote:What the scientists are say is; its not a matter of if but when.Cue disaster movie politician: "I want to reassure the public that there is no need, I repeat, no need to evacuate the city at this time. The alarmist scientific community has greatly exaggerated the dangers of the current situation."
"Rumble, Rumble, Rumble...."
"Hey what happend to the spokesperson, he was here just a second ago...."
yellowdingo
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Prince That Howls wrote:That has got to be the 2nd largest CR1 trap I've ever seen.I probably deserve a smiting for this but... what would be the biggest?
While they like to say it is that open cut mine somewhere in the USA...I'd go with this:
http://officespam.chattablogs.com/archives/worlds-deepest-pit-thumb.JPG
Apparently its become a black hole...