Can you cleave with a piercing weapon?


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As the subject

Can you cleave with a piercing weapon?


jyster wrote:

As the subject

Can you cleave with a piercing weapon?

Sure. Until the rules say otherwise, and I don't think they will.


It's like this.

Say you have a spear: you hit enemy #1, cleave, and carry on through to enemy #2.

If you have Great Cleave, you can make an enemy shiskabob.

The Exchange

you can cleave with anything, even a bludgeoning weapon. Or a subdual weapon (shutup, I'll call non-lethal weapons what I want!)


Oddly, I think even whips work.


Cleaving fist!

Lariat!

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Yup; Cleave (and Great Cleave) works with any weapon. The flavor of how your cleave attempt looks in game is different depending on what kind of weapon you're using (and indeed, the word "cleave" might not apply as much for some weapons), but the game effects are the same no matter what weapon you use.

That said, I'd heartily endorse a "common-sense" house-rule that says really REALLY strange weapons like nets or mancatchers or lassos can't cleave. Basically, if you use a weapon to catch or entangle a foe, it makes no sense that you can move on to hit a different foe.

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Yeah i always seen cleave to be just the "killing blow" so to speak and the feat teaches you to ride the momentum of that blow into another attack. Like the speak running something threw and then the person behind them. Or with a dagger stepping in close slashing their throat then spinning to bury the dagger in someone else shoulder nearby etc. I tend to describe it like that as a player or GM. Plus like James said about capturing weapons and the like, common sense.


Dark_Mistress wrote:
Yeah i always seen cleave to be just the "killing blow" so to speak and the feat teaches you to ride the momentum of that blow into another attack. Like the speak running something threw and then the person behind them. Or with a dagger stepping in close slashing their throat then spinning to bury the dagger in someone else shoulder nearby etc. I tend to describe it like that as a player or GM. Plus like James said about capturing weapons and the like, common sense.

Any Zorro and 3-Musketeers movie will show you plenty of cleaves with piercing weapons.

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

like the speak running? WTF... I really need to connect my fingers with my brain.... SPEAR.... *sigh*

Grand Lodge

a cleaving net... wow makes a gladiator more interesting! I have to admit I would never have even considered that.

Trying to imagine it... lol get funny pictures in my head of a dwarf using Greater Cleave against elves and his net is near to busting as he scoops up one after another! lol

mmmm but the fisherman at the dock is looking at us and saying "What's so funny about Cleaving with a net? How ya think we catch all them fish?"


Krome wrote:

a cleaving net... wow makes a gladiator more interesting! I have to admit I would never have even considered that.

Trying to imagine it... lol get funny pictures in my head of a dwarf using Greater Cleave against elves and his net is near to busting as he scoops up one after another! lol

mmmm but the fisherman at the dock is looking at us and saying "What's so funny about Cleaving with a net? How ya think we catch all them fish?"

Cleaving net...that would be the razor net from predator?

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