Statblocks in the Bestiary and understanding them


Rules Questions


Hello,

I am kind of new to D20/D&D/Pathfinder - and my cogamers (and DM) too.

We are unsure if we get the stats, especially the attacks, right.

For example the barghest:
Bite +10 (1d6+4), 2 claws +10 (1d4+4)

Does that mean, that he can do one of the above attacks as an standard action - or do all three of them as a full round action (1 bite and 2 claw attacks)?

Another example - the Marilith Demon.
Using a full round action without weapons it got 6 slams and one tail slap?
Using a full round with weapon he got 5 +24 weapon attacks, one slap and with the mainhand he got additional 4 attacks with differing modifiers (+24/+19/+14/+9)

Thanks :)


You are correct on the barghest. It will usually bite as a standard action (its best attack) and it will do all three as a full-round attack.

As for the Marilith, she's almost always armed with weapons. Just like a high level fighter, she can use one weapon and get all her iterative attacks. For example, a 20th level human fighter with just one sword gets to attack 4 times at +20/+15/+10/+5 (and he would add his STR, magic bonuses, feats, class abilities, etc., so those bonuses would be higher).

So the Marilith gets to pick one of her arms and make those attacks just like a fighter. She would likely pick her favorite weapon and attack 4 times with it. Each of her other 5 arms gets just one attack, and she still gets a tail slap.

If, by chance, you catch her without any weapons, then she can still use her 6 arms, but she only gets one Slam attack with each arm, plus her tail slap.

And yes, that all requires full-round actions.

If she only has a standard action, she gets to make just one attack. She would probably prefer to attack with a tail slap if she can only pick one attack. If she hits, she immediately begins a free grapple attempt (her Constrict ability) with a +28 CMB. If that is successful, the victim must immediately make a DC 25 fort save or fall unconscious for 1-8 rounds. That's very powerful when it works, far more powerful than just chopping someone with a sword one time.


DM_Blake wrote:


If she only has a standard action, she gets to make just one attack. She would probably prefer to attack with a tail slap if she can only pick one attack. If she hits, she immediately begins a free grapple attempt (her Constrict ability) with a +28 CMB. If that is successful, the victim must immediately make a DC 25 fort save or fall unconscious for 1-8 rounds. That's very powerful when it works, far more powerful than just chopping someone with a sword one time.

Thanks for the help - and as always, answers lead to ne questions.

Bite +x (dmg + trip) says, that, after an successfull attack, the "monster" is allowed to make a free CMB check to do the trip (or other whatever maneuver there is written)?

But it does have to make a seperate CMB check, the successfull attack check only says it has hit?

Shadow Lodge

Quote:
Bite +10 (1d6+4), 2 claws +10 (1d4+4)

As a standard action he can pick any single one of these attacks. As a full round action he can do all three.

There are exceptions to this, mostly pounce and a few monsters that have other special abilities (Ettin and hydra I think).

Marilith (Don't think I've ever seen a male marilith):

Her full attack is:
+1 longsword +24/+19/+14/+9 (2d6+8/17–20), 5 +1 longswords +24 (2d6+4/17–20), tail slap +19 (2d6+3 plus grab) -or- 6 slams +24 (1d8+7), tail slap +19 (2d6+3 plus grab)

So the big or in the middle separates two possible configurations. Easiest just to use the first. So on a full attack he gets 4 attacks with her longsword, at +24/+19/+14/+9 respectively and 5 attacks with her other arms at +24, and her attack with her tail. If her tail hits she can make a CMB check to see if she grabs someone.

On a standard action she can pick any one of those attacks.


It / she is able to use here 10/7/whatever attacks on as many targets as she wants as long as they are in range?


Arthun wrote:

Bite +x (dmg + trip) says, that, after an successfull attack, the "monster" is allowed to make a free CMB check to do the trip (or other whatever maneuver there is written)?

But it does have to make a seperate CMB check, the successfull attack check only says it has hit?

Correct. The initial attack roll determines if it hits with its bite attack. If it hits, it deals damage as normal, and then gets a free CMB check, rolled separately to see if it trips.


Arthun wrote:
It / she is able to use here 10/7/whatever attacks on as many targets as she wants as long as they are in range?

If the marilith makes a full attack, she can divide those attacks against any targets she can reach, yes. That's standard for anyone using full attacks. My group thinks of mariliths as "mobile blade barriers" for a reason. WotC also statted up one as an epic-level monster with dervish levels once, it was insanely nasty IIRC...good times!

Shadow Lodge

Arthun wrote:
It / she is able to use here 10/7/whatever attacks on as many targets as she wants as long as they are in range?

Yes, you can switch targets in the middle of a round. It's much more effective to ginsu one then move on though.


Arthun wrote:

Bite +x (dmg + trip) says, that, after an successfull attack, the "monster" is allowed to make a free CMB check to do the trip (or other whatever maneuver there is written)?

But it does have to make a seperate CMB check, the successfull attack check only says it has hit?

Yes, the CMB check for the trip is a separate roll. First you roll for the bite attack. If that misses, you're done with the bite (there is no Trip attempt if the bite misses). If the bite hits, roll damage for the bite and also roll the CMB Trip attempt.

Note, this is the same process for the Marilith's tail slap: Roll to hit, if it hits roll damage and also roll the CMB Grapple attempt.


Thank you all - Pathfinder really works different then the other systems I know.

And sry for the "newb questions" :)
(And sry for apologizing but I am used to a WoW-like messageboard mentality *g*)


Arthun wrote:

Thank you all - Pathfinder really works different then the other systems I know.

And sry for the "newb questions" :)
(And sry for apologizing but I am used to a WoW-like messageboard mentality *g*)

Not a problem. We'll eventually break you of the WoW type of messageboard expectations, have no fear;)

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