Questions about the Eidolons' Trip Evolution


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I just want to make sure I get this correct, because I can see this leading to some confusion. Here's there description

Trip (Ex): An eidolon becomes adept at knocking foes to the ground with its bite, granting it a trip attack. Whenever the eidolon makes a successful bite attack of the selected type, it can attempt a free combat maneuver check. If successful, the target is knocked prone. If the check fails, the eidolon is not tripped in return. This ability only works on creatures of a size equal to or smaller than the eidolon. The eidolon must possess the bite evolution to select this evolution.

My first question was "does this free combat maneuver provoke an attack of opportunity. I checked the Beasiary and found my answer to this one. The Beastiary states,

"Trip (Ex)

A creature with the trip special attack can attempt to trip its opponent as a free action without provoking an attack of opportunity if it hits with the specified attack. If the attempt fails, the creature is not tripped in return.

Format: trip (bite); Location: individual attacks.

So, no, it does not provoke and Attack of opportunity, at least going by the Beastiary rules.

My other question is this, do you deal damage with the initial bite attack. Logic would dictate yes(the creature attacks, SUCCESSFULLY bites and deals damage) then gets a free attempt to trip. The wording in the description implies the same thing, but does not specifically say as much. Your not "replacing your normal attack with a combat maneuver check", as a normal character would, your supplementing your SUCCESSFUL attack.

I believe I'm getting these two questions correct, but i want to double check.


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Pugbear wrote:

My first question was "does this free combat maneuver provoke an attack of opportunity. I checked the Bestiary and found my answer to this one. The Bestiary states,

So, no, it does not provoke and Attack of opportunity, at least going by the Beastiary rules.

My other question is this, do you deal damage with the initial bite attack. Logic would dictate yes(the creature attacks, SUCCESSFULLY bites and deals damage) then gets a free attempt to trip.

Correct on both, if the attack hits, you roll damage and anything else that would apply to that attack. Then you make a free trip attempt that does not provoke an aoo, unless the eidolons ability specific says you do.

EDIT: Sorry, didn't check the date on this before I replied.

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