Need a guardian...


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Liberty's Edge

so I am running a campaign and I need help with a guardian.

Background info is the PCs are being tricked by an evil sorceress. She is being barred from entering a Chamber until the guardian is dead. She is not strong enough/can not enter the tomb, because she is evil. So she has tricked the PCs into killing Kin of the Guardian. They were sent to destroy and evil cult (it is the guardian's kin, who actually lead a resistance group). She has sent word to the Kin that Imperialist strike force is out to destroy them. The Kin will then Ambush the party thus leaving no room for a peaceful encounter. Originally I was going to have the Kin be a sorcerer with a draconic bloodline, and have the guardian be a dragon. the only thing is when the group will face this guardian they will only be a APL 5. Is a dragon too tough? I don't want them fighting a young medium size dragon it just looks silly. I was thinking of making it a half-celestial guardian but now I am rethinking it. Anyone have any helpful suggestions?


You could go for an humanoid half-dragon sorcerer of an appropriate CR. While maintaining concept, you place something powerful, impressive, and somewhat balanced.

If you want to place celestial stuff in it, make it an Half-Aasimar, Half Dragon.


TheOrangeOne wrote:
Is a dragon too tough? I don't want them fighting a young medium size dragon it just looks silly. I was thinking of making it a half-celestial guardian but now I am rethinking it. Anyone have any helpful suggestions?

So are you looking for it to be at least Large sized, then? Do you want it brutish or smart, skillful or primal, etc?

Liberty's Edge

it needs to be good aligned. Large size is preferable. intelligent but not smart enough to be calm when ambushing his kins killer.


TheOrangeOne wrote:
it needs to be good aligned. Large size is preferable. intelligent but not smart enough to be calm when ambushing his kins killer.

A lillend is an option, but might be too intelligent/skilled/resourceful. You could reskin a Lamia as a "lesser lillend" which would work nicely, I think. You could use a chimera with a metallic head instead of a chromatic one, and make it CG instead of CE. A metallic-coloured wyvern would also work nicely.

Personally, I'd use the Lamia-as-lillend and replace Charm Person with Cure Serious.

Liberty's Edge

Varthanna wrote:


A lillend is an option, but might be too intelligent/skilled/resourceful. You could reskin a Lamia as a "lesser lillend" which would work nicely, I think. You could use a chimera with a metallic head instead of a chromatic one, and make it CG instead of CE. A metallic-coloured wyvern would also work nicely.

Personally, I'd use the Lamia-as-lillend and replace Charm Person with Cure Serious.

I am not familiar with a lillend.


A lillend or an angel would make a lot of sense. If they have the power to exlude 'evil' invaders they probably are from the opposing forces of capital 'G' good.

Sigurd


TheOrangeOne wrote:
Varthanna wrote:


A lillend is an option, but might be too intelligent/skilled/resourceful. You could reskin a Lamia as a "lesser lillend" which would work nicely, I think. You could use a chimera with a metallic head instead of a chromatic one, and make it CG instead of CE. A metallic-coloured wyvern would also work nicely.

Personally, I'd use the Lamia-as-lillend and replace Charm Person with Cure Serious.

I am not familiar with a lillend.

Naga-like angels protect things (typically things of great aesthetic beauty, works of art, etc)

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/azata/lillend


Half-Celestial Unicorn

Though I want to say Half-Celestial Werebear. Cause that's awesome.


Cartigan wrote:


Though I want to say Half-Celestial Werebear

My crazy-awesome-meter just exploded


Also, make him wear a kilt and carry a greatsword around.
Cause that's traditional in many gaming groups I know of.

;-)

Liberty's Edge

wow, the lillend is sexah. you guys are silly btw.

Liberty's Edge

oh, thanks for all your suggestions. to be more specific I need something that is a known force of good that can do evil under emotional duress. large size preferable. the Lillend looks like a creature of good with extreme control over herself. OH and must fit the role of guardian. like I guard this here tomb! o.O but i am emotional becuase someone tricked me into thinking you guys are evil and killed my Blood Kin!!


How about Half-Celestial Minotaur?

Challenge Rating 6, Large Size, looks intimidating, sports great, golden wings and possibly silver horns and hooves, wields an impressive greataxe and has this menacing air about it.

"Me am Krunk. Me guard this here tomb for Master. Master always kind to Krunk. Krunk now angry at you for killing family. What you say in deff... defian... What you say now?"

Liberty's Edge

That is awesome Nether Saxon, any other great Ideas? I don't want to fight retards. and think.. you killed a minotaur with angel wings! so it was a minotaur they are always assumed to be evil :P!. I don't want to drop huge hints at them for them to feel ashamed afterwards.


Any deity can have a servant\avatar\guardian in basically any shape. The character might have killed the avatar's original family or close worshipers.

What are the known good deities in your game world?

S

Liberty's Edge

I am using the base PF deities with a few of my own. I have three gods of magic much like Krynn. and I have a few other of my creations.


TheOrangeOne wrote:
oh, thanks for all your suggestions. to be more specific I need something that is a known force of good that can do evil under emotional duress. large size preferable. the Lillend looks like a creature of good with extreme control over herself. OH and must fit the role of guardian. like I guard this here tomb! o.O but i am emotional becuase someone tricked me into thinking you guys are evil and killed my Blood Kin!!

Define "do evil."

I'm still rooting for Half-Celestial Werebear.

Liberty's Edge

succumb to his rage and blindly attack the PC's. if he killed them that would being "doing evil".


Cartigan wrote:
TheOrangeOne wrote:
oh, thanks for all your suggestions. to be more specific I need something that is a known force of good that can do evil under emotional duress. large size preferable. the Lillend looks like a creature of good with extreme control over herself. OH and must fit the role of guardian. like I guard this here tomb! o.O but i am emotional becuase someone tricked me into thinking you guys are evil and killed my Blood Kin!!

Define "do evil."

I'm still rooting for Half-Celestial Werebear.

WEREBEAR STARE!!!!!

Dark Archive

As an alternative, there was a spell in 3.5 Book of Exalted deeds that allowed the caster to imprison an evil creature for some amount of time. If the creature stayed imprisoned for the full duration, it's alignment changed to good and it gained a template of some sort. It would be pretty cool to have had a powerful cleric seek out an evil creature, convert them to the side of good, and have them gaurd the area as penance for their sins.


Make said evil sorcereous a summoner and the guardian is actually her Elidon playing a role in her scripted process.


Well, it's always perfectly within the rules to just tell your party "The big golden gleaming bull-man before you is a ... I need a Knowledge (Planes) check, please (player tells you his result) ... bovine archon, one of a rarer breed of archons that were often used for guard duty. The problem with them was always that they couldn't keep their temper properly, which often resulted in innocents getting hurt. Might have something to do with their physical similarity to minotaurs..."

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