
bodrin |

Firest wrote:Kudo's on the work you've put into this thomax, the app is more useful than ever now. And I hadn't expected the GMG content to be available too, so good job there as well.Thanks! I'm quite happy with the way this version turned out. I put a lot of work into scripting the content to fit the app, but from now on it will be easier for me to grab the latest errata and even new OGL material, and update the app.
One thing which would be very interesting to know: Are there anyone who uses the Custom Content feature? I realize I have no idea if this is useful, or just making the app more complicated and deserves a coup de grace?
I've had this app on the iPhone and the iPad since I saw it on the App store.
Yesterday 9/1/2011 I purchased both the GMG and the APG updates which are a great addition to an almost perfect reference utility.
However a word of caution, as the extra material is bought via an in app purchase and I acquired the extra data from my iPhone, i was disappointed that the data didn't transfer to my iPad which I expected it to.
So at the moment I'm waiting for a support e-mail from Ufisk as to the reason why the new data isn't transferable. Otherwise I'll have to re-buy the data again which although doesn't cost to much, it still means a double hit.
The app is ace though very handy around the gaming table.

Seeker of skybreak |

I love the new update. This is easily the best Pathfinder app on the market. I hardly use the custom content feature but that doesn't mean I would want to see it go unless it opened up the ability for you to do something better. The custom content folder would be mire useful if it could unzip the file I link it to download. Most URL's I want to link to are ones I purchased from paizo.

bodrin |

Okay I'm an idiot. I didn't realise that a purchase had to be made on each device with the in App purchase to activate the new content, and I wouldn't be charged twice because Apple has the receipt on record logged against my iTunes account.
I presumed buying once on one device would update the core App and then update all instances.
Thomax thank you for explaining this.
The Pfr and D20 apps are only 2 of 6 Apps that I've acquired in the year since owning an iPhone. Both are excellent products and now I'm informed that I can download freely as many times as required on the iTunes account I'm eagerly awaiting new data from the next set of OGL books from Paizo, especially the Bestiary 2 additions to the Prd!
Regarding the custom content feature, I don't use it at the moment but I can see a reason to in the future, for small files and such.
I'm a very happy bunny now.
Once more great product, kudos!

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Okay I'm an idiot. I didn't realise that a purchase had to be made on each device with the in App purchase to activate the new content, and I wouldn't be charged twice because Apple has the receipt on record logged against my iTunes account.
I presumed buying once on one device would update the core App and then update all instances.
Thomax thank you for explaining this.
The Pfr and D20 apps are only 2 of 6 Apps that I've acquired in the year since owning an iPhone. Both are excellent products and now I'm informed that I can download freely as many times as required on the iTunes account I'm eagerly awaiting new data from the next set of OGL books from Paizo, especially the Bestiary 2 additions to the Prd!
Regarding the custom content feature, I don't use it at the moment but I can see a reason to in the future, for small files and such.
I'm a very happy bunny now.
Once more great product, kudos!
I wonder, and I am going to test this, if you DL the update, and then purchase the extra content on one device, then sync that device to your main system, and then sync to your other devices if the purchase is maintained?
I find the in app purchase mechanism frustrating because it does break the licensing model that pervades the i-device world. A lot of companies have put compensating controls in so that when you do purchase it on one device, other devices check that purchase flag and update locally. Or they have a manual "check" step.

bodrin |

I wonder, and I am going to test this, if you DL the update, and then purchase the extra content on one device, then sync that device to your main system, and then sync to your other devices if the purchase is maintained?
I find the in app purchase mechanism frustrating because it does break the licensing model that pervades the i-device world. A lot of companies have put compensating controls in so that when you do purchase it on one device, other devices check that purchase flag and update locally. Or they have a manual "check" step.
No it doesn't work that's the problem I had. Bought on iPhone synced to computer then from computer synced to iPad. No extra data. Buy on both devices the second device registers that I already owned the content so it installed without cost.

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Galnörag wrote:No it doesn't work that's the problem I had. Bought on iPhone synced to computer then from computer synced to iPad. No extra data. Buy on both devices the second device registers that I already owned the content so it installed without cost.I wonder, and I am going to test this, if you DL the update, and then purchase the extra content on one device, then sync that device to your main system, and then sync to your other devices if the purchase is maintained?
I find the in app purchase mechanism frustrating because it does break the licensing model that pervades the i-device world. A lot of companies have put compensating controls in so that when you do purchase it on one device, other devices check that purchase flag and update locally. Or they have a manual "check" step.
Ah, okay, I understand and am glad. Hate having to buy something twice

Dorje Sylas |

Like some of the early adopters in the Mac App store *smirk*.... although I really shouldn't as I updated my iMovie and GarageBand through it.
To topic, in the thread asking after Paizo Unicorn App (¿is it safe to use elusive fantasy creature metaphors for a company who sells bestiaries?) I did not mean my "poke" of in harsh ways. Undeniably the PFR App is by far and way the best offline iOS reference on the handhelds (Phone/Pod). And I thank you for the errata update, addons bought with no quibble.
That said, as I mentioned in my review there are some things that could improve the creature comforts of the App. First is home screen, personally to my eyes it is a bit strong and distracts me from the content list. I can understand why you made that change, however I much perfered the flat muited background.
Second is the search which really needs a way to cancel or abort. I've slipped up enough times in searching the wrong term to find it off putting to wait for it run the several hundred pages. Combined with that a way to filter out or select certain sections would improve it's functionality. For example being able to omit monster and spell entries from the search preference.
Third, and this is really a far fetched feature request, is a way to search monster and maybe spells by key componets. I don't know if you ever used the Sovelior Sage take on the 3.5 SRD. The most handy function was the Monster and Spell search. I know enough HTML and Javascript to know that setting up such a search system is intensive and time consuming.
http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/resources/systems/pennpaper/dnd35/s oveliorsage/home.html

erian_7 |

This sounds like a great app. Any hope of seeing an Android version?
I second a call for an Android version (or even better, an Eden-enabled version for the Adam...a version that could use all three Eden leaves would rock!)

thomax |

To topic, in the thread asking after Paizo Unicorn App (¿is it safe to use elusive fantasy creature metaphors for a company who sells bestiaries?) I did not mean my "poke" of in harsh ways...
No offense taken! Thanks for getting back on the topic! Some quick comments on your feedback:
Home screen: Yeah, I agree the bg pic is a bit too visible. I promise to tone it down a couple of notches for the next release.
Search: I've looked into implementing a scoped search on all/only spells/only monsters when I first wrote the search feature. I'll look back into it now; I agree searching 1100+ pages (with apg+gmg installed) is a bit much. Ability to cancel the search would also be nice. I'll look into that one as well.
You've got it right that fast searching for spell "meta data" without a proper (and indexed) database is difficult to achieve :-) ...so this feature will most likely not make it into the app.
Thanks alot for taking the time to tell me what you think the app is missing! That's how software improves!

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Tomax,
Thank you for creating this App. I have it on my I-phone, and the Saturday before last, I was playing a PFS game at the Complete Strategist in New York. I was giving a Magus a try, and I found the app very useful for looking up conditions, and also the color spray spell.
Again thanks keep up the good work.

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Dorje Sylas wrote:To topic, in the thread asking after Paizo Unicorn App (¿is it safe to use elusive fantasy creature metaphors for a company who sells bestiaries?) I did not mean my "poke" of in harsh ways...No offense taken! Thanks for getting back on the topic! Some quick comments on your feedback:
Home screen: Yeah, I agree the bg pic is a bit too visible. I promise to tone it down a couple of notches for the next release.
Search: I've looked into implementing a scoped search on all/only spells/only monsters when I first wrote the search feature. I'll look back into it now; I agree searching 1100+ pages (with apg+gmg installed) is a bit much. Ability to cancel the search would also be nice. I'll look into that one as well.
You've got it right that fast searching for spell "meta data" without a proper (and indexed) database is difficult to achieve :-) ...so this feature will most likely not make it into the app.
Thanks alot for taking the time to tell me what you think the app is missing! That's how software improves!
Have you tried looking into Core Data more for search functionality? If you can wrap your app with core data properly, with the correct indexs, not only can you take advantage of likely more optimal search algorithms but you can expose the app to search via the IOS search screen, allowing jumping into the app from outside of it.

thomax |

Have you tried looking into Core Data more for search functionality? If you can wrap your app with core data properly, with the correct indexs, not only can you take advantage of likely more optimal search algorithms but you can expose the app to search via the IOS search screen, allowing jumping into the app from outside of it.
I wasn't aware of this, sounds potentially very useful. I'll definitely have a look at it! Thanks for the tip!

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Galnörag wrote:Have you tried looking into Core Data more for search functionality? If you can wrap your app with core data properly, with the correct indexs, not only can you take advantage of likely more optimal search algorithms but you can expose the app to search via the IOS search screen, allowing jumping into the app from outside of it.I wasn't aware of this, sounds potentially very useful. I'll definitely have a look at it! Thanks for the tip!
Core Data makes my developer loins quiver with excitment
Okay that was too much information, but it is seriously badass, and if I had time to work on my app and not be bogged down by my job I would have built it into the Grimoire.

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Is there a way to purchase the APG/DMG upgrades without wi-fi access on my ipod? I bought the base application through iTunes store on my pc but do not have wi-fi for my ipod :(
Just connect it to you PC and update it through iTunes...

thomax |

Is there a way to purchase the APG/DMG upgrades without wi-fi access on my ipod? I bought the base application through iTunes store on my pc but do not have wi-fi for my ipod :(
I just gave it a quick go, but I could not figure out how to do an in-app purchase from inside iTunes. I may have overlooked something, but it seems in-app purchases must be done from a device which is on the net.

Bobson |

To better ask the question I asked in the other thread:
Are you including the FAQ and/or developer postings on various clarifications? For example, the Monk has a FAQ entry about flurry. On d20pfsrd's Monk entry, it's listed right next to the flurry ability.
Also, is the custom-loadable stuff editable from within the app (i.e. to take notes), or is it just a "download and view"?

thomax |

Are you including the FAQ and/or developer postings on various clarifications? For example, the Monk has a FAQ entry about flurry. On d20pfsrd's Monk entry, it's listed right next to the flurry ability.
All content in the PFR app comes strictly from http://paizo.com/prd. No extra faq/publisher clarifications.
Also, is the custom-loadable stuff editable from within the app (i.e. to take notes), or is it just a "download and view"?
Nope, it can only be viewed, not edited.

thomax |

Fantastic app.
Although I must say, the main menu of the previous version was better. Some separation of the 'chapters' would be nice...
Yes, I wasn't 100% happy with this one myself, but I wanted to move from the HTML-style index to a native iOS table. And I needed the section titles for the different products. I briefly considered dividing up the Core table, but wasn't happy with that one either, so eventually I crammed it all into on table section. Humhm.
And one more other error. In Spell Lists section, Sorcerer is spelled with an 'o', ie. Sorceror, which is incorrect.
Thanks for spotting that one! I've corrected it for the next version.

thomax |

I might have missed this question somewhere in here, but is this app going to be available on other OS's, or only the IPhone.
I'll probably get around to making a version for Android, but right now I'm working on random generator with a twist. I also need to get my hands on a proper droid device, and I have no idea which one is the best bet for a developer. So don't hold your breath, ok?

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Sphen wrote:I might have missed this question somewhere in here, but is this app going to be available on other OS's, or only the IPhone.I'll probably get around to making a version for Android, but right now I'm working on random generator with a twist. I also need to get my hands on a proper droid device, and I have no idea which one is the best bet for a developer. So don't hold your breath, ok?
Oh darn. Well, I will say that with all the 4G phones coming out now, all of them so far run on Android OS. As far as development device goes, anyone with the Android 2.2 OS would be a safe bet. The HTC Inspire has really good sized screen, and the Motorla Atrix is sporting a dual-core processor. So please don't forget about those of us that aren't paying out the nose for an IPhone. But I will wait patiently.

thomax |

I wanted to ask a question. I've purchased this item on the app store, and noticed a glitch (under the Advanced Spell List, the Sorcerer/Wizard button does not seem to work). Should I report that here, or through the app store?
Thanks for the feedback! Two other users have reported this as well, and I will patch this for the next release, which should arrive about easter-ish.

thomax |

I am guessing we won't see an addition of Ultimate Magic until it ends up on the PRD as well?
Wonderful app by the way. Worth every penny.
Yes. And according to this thread, Ultimate Magic will very soon end up in the PRD. There will be a new version of PFR as soon as this happens!

OneTrueKester |
Absolutely love this app. I was checking out some of the free PDF files here and happened upon this thread and have been using this utility for months now and purchased each expansion. Eagerly awaiting Ultimate Combat, to be sure...
I was curious if there was any chance you might consider including the art that seems to be fair use also, as it's featured in articles on d20pfsrd for the classes, races and monsters at least. It would complete my art nerd needs of being able to show people "Hey, this is a rough idea of what I'm talking about" with the incredible art that doesn't seem to be restricted.
Just a thought, and by no means stop working on getting us UC to answer. Can't wait for the new classes and vehicle combat...

thomax |

I was curious if there was any chance you might consider including the art that seems to be fair use also, as it's featured in articles on d20pfsrd for the classes, races and monsters at least. It would complete my art nerd needs of being able to show people "Hey, this is a rough idea of what I'm talking about" with the incredible art that doesn't seem to be restricted.
I would love to include some artwork! But last time I checked, the art is published under the Paizo Community License (content re-distributable if it's not sold). This means I could add the same art which d20pfsrd.com have on their site, but then I couldn't charge any money for the app. And then I couldn't spend as much time as I do making it a snappy app with frequent updates.

thomax |

Thank you for the Ultimate Combat content! However, it looks like the Sorcerer/Wizard link under the Ultimate Combat "Spell List" section is also not working (The Advanced Player's Guide one works now, though). Just a heads up.
Thanks for the feedback! I will be sure to include this in the next version, which also will have advanced search options.

thomax |

I don't get it. Is this just a $4.99 reformat of the PRD website?
If so, it's overpriced unless you can sell me on some other features.
Available offline, nicely laid out search results & bookmarks. And soon the ability to search only a subset (divided by content type, not by book) of the content you have.
Have a look at the reviews and ratings, and you will see that a lot of folks are very happy with the value of the app. But hey, people prefer their coffee differently and I can't possibly hope to please everyone.

thomax |

What does the character sheet look like and how does it work?
The PFR app has no real character sheet functionality. It does, however, have a "Custom content" feature where you can download a pdf, an image, a doc file, a text file etc from the Internet, for later offline reference.
This feature was a bit useful back in the day when I wrote it. Later, services like Evernote and Dropbox does this a whole lot better so I don't expect very many makes use of this feature.
Even so, I'm afraid to take it away, as some users might depend upon it and would loose their content, should the app suddenly update without the Custom content feature.

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I looked it over and for me, I don't see many advantages over just going to the website. Or downloading one of the myriad PRD documents off of google for offline use later.
If you add a character/NPC/Monster builder and random dungeon generator, then I would be sold.
Just my evaluation.
Are there any hyperlinked prd documents available for Ultimate Magic/Combat? If there are, I'd love to know.
Even if there were, though, even Good Reader struggles with that sort of thing, so the hyperlinked and offline availability of this app make it far and away the best pathfinder related app for the ipad. This app just works so well and so readily as opposed to a clunky document that is not otherwise optimized for the ipad.
Although I would love to see a builder of some sort or another, I'm sure someone else can devote their time and effort to do it. Presumably someone with the desire to do so.

thomax |

If you add a character/NPC/Monster builder and random dungeon generator, then I would be sold.
Regarding a character sheet app... I've been considering this a lot. And the longer I look down the bottomless pit which is character sheet applications, the more I realize it's a huge undertaking. For a human, rules and exceptions to these is easy. Now, formalizing these rules and exceptions into software, that's a completely different animal. A character sheet starts out as a simple form, but then:
- Stats affect skills, ac, bab, saves and spells.- Race affects stats and some skills, sometimes.
- Level affects a lot of stuff, depending on lots of stuff.
- Feats affect skills, bab, saves, ac and other stuff, sometimes.
- Multiclassing...
- Gear is a complete headache, affecting random bits of the character sheet.
- Everyone has house rules, which will require the whole app to be customizeable in order to be useful ("in our game rogues get d6 hd" and so on). Not only customizable in a single dimension, like how big a bonus does the dodge feat add to ac, but all dimensions. New skills. New feats, formalized, so they grant bonuses here and there under unquantifyable circumstances. New spells (--> remember to implement a fine little spell form editor).
I'm sure you see where this goes: A flat, uncustomizable, form with no auto-fill-out help anyone can make, but will not be useful. Once you start adding features to the app, nobody will ever be satisfied. The perfect character sheet app is all this:
1. Formalizes all the rules so the app does all the math.
2. Is completely customizable.
3. Has a simplistic and slick GUI.
4. Runs on a phone.
...and is near impossible to make. I wish anyone attempting this good luck, but I'm very happy this is not me!
Also, anyone wanting the above specs implemented in an already well-working app like PFR is probably under the influence of some Mummys curse :-)

thomax |

By the way, I have noticed that a number of hyperlinks in the spell list have not been functioning. This seems most prominent in Ultimate Combat. Links can be tapped, but do nothing. Things like "Reloading Hands" for instance, though entire lists of spells were simply not accessible.
Roger that. 3 days ago, I submitted a new version to the app store. New in v2.2:
- New feature: In-page text search!
- By popular demand, on iPhone: Navigation bar now stays put in both landscape and portrait (iPad has always had navbar present in landscape).
- Fixed some links which died in the last patch.
Hopefully this version goes through in another 3 days or so. Sorry about the broken links!