Liberal use of the Reincarnate spell. Brings you back as a Young Adult of whatever form you get, and can be used to revive people that have died of old age.
Yep, there's that. D&D wasn't nearly so friendly with its "can't save you from old age rule."
There is some sort of snake oil made in Thuvia that suspends aging for several years at a time. 20k gold pieces a pop, but YOU'RE WORTH IT, aren't you?
What are the methods by which someone of moral race (human dwarves elves etc.) can gain immortality in the pathfinder game?
any more in the 3.5 D&D game?
If 3rd material is allowed there is always the method in the Book of Vile Darkness. The spell Steal Life was always a *cough* good *cough cough* option. Every peasant killed on the night of a full moon would reduce your age by a full year or more. Of course this method, if my knowledge of vintage horror classics holds true, will undoubtedly result in a mob of angry villagers in a matter of years. Then there is the little point that your DM would change your alignment to either LE or CE depending in the manner you went about obtaining your serfs.
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Every peasant killed on the night of a full moon would reduce your age by a full year or more. Of course this method, if my knowledge of vintage horror classics holds true, will undoubtedly result in a mob of angry villagers in a matter of years.
Well, if you do it right, there won't be a mob of villagers left, will there? >:D
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Liberal use of the Reincarnate spell. Brings you back as a Young Adult of whatever form you get, and can be used to revive people that have died of old age.
Just be sure to have a cyclops druid reincarnate you so you can pick your race.
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Every peasant killed on the night of a full moon would reduce your age by a full year or more. Of course this method, if my knowledge of vintage horror classics holds true, will undoubtedly result in a mob of angry villagers in a matter of years.Well, if you do it right, there won't be a mob of villagers left, will there? >:D
Demonstrate some restraint though. You don't want to wind up being the world's most evil toddler.
Seriously, even Zardak Heartreaper doesn't want to go through puberty again.
Reincarnate is great and all, but you do need to find someone willing to cast it on you and gather 1000gp each time you use it. Granted if you only use it when you die of old age you have a lot of time to gather those resources. If your death comes unexpected however, said person also has to know that you died and have access to your corpse within a week of the event.
Too much work for me! I say just become a level 20 Oracle of Heavens!
Upon achieving 20th level, your rapport with the heavens grants you perfect harmony with the universe. You receive a bonus on all saving throws equal to your Charisma modifier. You automatically stabilize if you are below 0 hit points, are immune to fear effects, and automatically confirm all critical hits. Should you die, you are reborn 3 days later in the form of a star child, who matures over the course of 7 days (treat as the reincarnate spell).
A free automatic Reincarnate any time you die, from what ever cause. The only thing that can stop it is some spell that prevents reincarnation.
It depends, are you looking for something for a player? or an NPC?
Player ( anything to do with the wish spell)
NPC ( you could always make up some stuff, also ... Litchdom counts... does it not?)
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Reincarnate is great and all, but you do need to find someone willing to cast it on you and gather 1000gp each time you use it. Granted if you only use it when you die of old age you have a lot of time to gather those resources. If your death comes unexpected however, said person also has to know that you died and have access to your corpse within a week of the event.
For unplanned deaths you keep a clone around (per the 8th level spell). Reincarnating is just for when you start to get a little older and want a younger body.
Ya know the clones worked well for Mansoon, till someone messed with em anyhow.
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There's also building a golem body for yourself, or having one made for you.
Betcha there are a few Brigh worshippers working towards that goal.
Oh snap, there's a plot hook. Fanatical Brigh worshippers wanting to take everyone down the path of transhumanism whether they want it or not.
You could try to get bitten by a vampire.
Did you mean immortality as in "can't die of old age" or "can't die at all"?
The second case having been discussed at length here, don't forget the first: Timeless Body (Monk or Druid) is good for this.
Did you mean immortality as in "can't die of old age" or "can't die at all"?
The second case having been discussed at length here, don't forget the first: Timeless Body (Monk or Druid) is good for this.
Timeless Body does not prevent death from old age, just makes it so you don't suffer the physical penalties of getting old.
Timeless Body (Ex): After attaining 15th level, a druid no longer takes ability score penalties for aging and cannot be magically aged. Any penalties she may have already incurred, however, remain in place. Bonuses still accrue, and the druid still dies of old age when her time is up.
What are the methods by which someone of mortal race (human dwarves elves etc.) can gain immortality in the pathfinder game?
any more in the 3.5 D&D game?
I don't know of any from Pathfinder but the Green Star Adept PrC from Complete Arcane ended up making you immortal (cannot die from old age and a living consrtuct IIRC).
And epic magic can vastly extend your life span, if Elminster and Kelben Blackstaff from the Forgotten Realms are any examples (which they are).
Back in 1st and second edition there were potions of Longevity that would take 1d12 years off your current age. The problem being that you had to roll % dice every time you took one and if it rolled the number of those potions you had consumed in your life or less all the age removed by them came back instantly.
I have a character in need of an answer to this as well. Some sources:
1) Alchemists and Herbalists by Bastion Press. With a DC 40-something check and a few feats as prereqs you really could make the elixir of immortality.
2) There's an immortality ritual in the Scarred Lands: Relics and Rituals first. Wizard only (unless your sorcerer has the feat that lets him use wizard rituals), requires a couple other mages and the willing sacrifice of a dear friend or lover.
3) In Maure Castle there was a potion that granted eternal life. Too bad eternal youth didn't come with it.
4) Since reincarnate was mentioned, the lifespans of outsiders, fey, and various other creatures aren't explicitly stated. Finding a way to become one of these races may give you the answer you seek.
5) Godhood. Go figure, huh?
What are the methods by which someone of mortal race (human dwarves elves etc.) can gain immortality in the pathfinder game?
any more in the 3.5 D&D game?
I don't know of any from Pathfinder but the Green Star Adept PrC from Complete Arcane ended up making you immortal (cannot die from old age and a living consrtuct IIRC).
And epic magic can vastly extend your life span, if Elminster and Kelben Blackstaff from the Forgotten Realms are any examples (which they are).
Epic magic definitely extends the lifespan, but Chosen of Mystra got immortality as part of the bargain. Other gods did that too IIRC. Forgot about that option.
Epic magic definitely extends the lifespan, but Chosen of Mystra got immortality as part of the bargain. Other gods did that too IIRC. Forgot about that option.
Oh yeah. Forgot they were 'Chosens'.
There are a few possibilities. There are at least a few PrCs in 3.5 that grant immortality as a capstone: the Cloud Anchorite from Frostburn (my personal favourite PrC from that book), the Green Star Adept from Complete Arcane (sort of, it turns you into a construct) and the Living Monolith from the Osirion companion. There is also the Elan race from XPH and the Psionics section of the SRD which has no maximum age, if that helps.
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Thank you all for you help and suggestions
Perhaps I should have been more specific. Is there a way to achieve immortality as in “not dying from old age” not “Cant die at all”, without resorting to necromancy to turn oneself into an undead creature (i.e. liches phylactery, vampire bite, mummification etc) or necromantic magical spells?
From what I understand there are several methods of achieving immortality
First there is the lottery of “Birth” so to speak. During character creation you can pick an immortal race.
There are several examples: namely the Gnomes in the PFRPG, the Elves in the PFRPG and the Elan from the Expanded psionics book, and the Warforged from the Eberon campaign setting.
There are character classes such as the alchemist, which might allow you to brew an elixir of eternal life,
There are prestige classes such as the green star adept, and living monolith, which allow you turn into constructs. The cloud arconite, The Elder Druid, from the Shanara article in dragon magazine, and the Incarnate prestige class from the EXP. ( you shed your physical body and become a being of pure psychic energy),
There is potion of eternal life from muire castle. Oh also there is that potion made in Thuvia. In the Gazetteer, it granted eternal life, and in the campaign setting it simply allows you to grow 1d4 years younger (I think).
You could also creat a golem and find a way to bind your spirit to it. Although I’m sure that would involve some necromancy.
And there are magical spells, the psionic mind switch, and I am sure there are others.
People have mentioned reincarnate. From what I understand, once you are reincarnated, you essentially starting a new character. Perhaps I am wrong about this.
There is also a Devine boon. If you become a gods “deciple” such as the chosen of Mystra, part of the deal includes immortality.
Necromancy of course provides the most avenues to avoid a mortal death. There is the Dread Necromancer, which a character class which allows you to make a phylactery to turn yourself into an a lich. Of course you can be bitten by a vampore, and also I’m sure there is the process of mummification to become a mummy.
There is the Phylactry.
And there are necromancy spells such as clone, and Manshoons personal spell stasis clone, and steal life. Im sure there are others.
I am sure there are things I have missed. If you have more ideas I would love to hear them thanks.
Monte Cook's Book of Experimantal Might has a spell called Immortality.
Dragon 354 had a 9th level necromancy spell that wasn't too ugly. Costing 5000xp and a magic item worth at least 4000 gp the spell allowed the recipient to stop aging while she carried the item. Penalties if you lose or are separated from it of course but it seems a reasonable thing.
You had to sacrifice the item but at least nobody else had to die.
An other method not mentioned yet is to travel to some rare planes where time doesn't work somehow and stay there.
Change to an elemental or outsider.
Sigurd
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Well, the Alchemist can choose "Eternal Youth" as his 20th level ability and he instantly becomes a young adult again and never thereafter ages. It makes no mention of "dies when his time is up", so we can assume that he does not.
Reincarnate brings your character back, class levels and memories and all, just in a different package. Now, you can't come back in an animal form like 3.0 though, so unless your DM is an ass you will always come back in a form that will (more or less) suit your needs. 1000gp for the spell, then 2000gp for the 2 restoration spells to get rid of the negative levels, and you're back.
Pity you can't correct the title. I feel like we should be talking about masterwork\enchanted plastic surgery....
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Reincarnate brings your character back, class levels and memories and all, just in a different package. Now, you can't come back in an animal form like 3.0 though, so unless your DM is an ass you will always come back in a form that will (more or less) suit your needs. 1000gp for the spell, then 2000gp for the 2 restoration spells to get rid of the negative levels, and you're back.
One can also always follow that up by getting Polymorph Any Object'd in order to get a form that suits their asthetics, if they so wish.
There's an idea. Powerful figure constantly gets reincarnated, and whenever he/she gets results like lizardfolk or such, they take on a mostly human form but keep just a hint or a few features of their actual new race in order to give themselves an air of exoticness/encourage racial acceptance while maintaining a familiar, recognizable appearance/to look cool.
Thank you all for you help and suggestions
Perhaps I should have been more specific. Is there a way to achieve immortality as in “not dying from old age” not “Cant die at all”, without resorting to necromancy to turn oneself into an undead creature (i.e. liches phylactery, vampire bite, mummification etc) or necromantic magical spells?
From what I understand there are several methods of achieving immortality
First there is the lottery of “Birth” so to speak. During character creation you can pick an immortal race.
There are several examples: namely the Gnomes in the PFRPG, the Elves in the PFRPG and the Elan from the Expanded psionics book, and the Warforged from the Eberon campaign setting.
Err the Elves and Gnomes have listed maximum ages and thus can die of old age. Elans and Warforged don't so they can't die of old age. Killoren from Races of the Wild also have no maximum age. There might be a few other races that don't have a maximum age and I think the rule for Planetouched (Aasimar, Tieflings etc) is that they age at the same rate as humans unless otherwise specified. Just to clarify.
I'm pretty sure that I saw James Jacobs say that a creature would still die of old age even with the effects of reincarnate.
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Blamo, found it. Get a few Rods of Security. Pg 488, low low price of 61000g each. Once a week, you can activate the rod. If you use it by yourself, you can stay up to 200 days in this paradise. Creatures don't age. Which means that well before you get out, you'll be ready to travel to a new paradise.
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Thank you all for your excellent suggestions. I guess elves and gnomes are not immortal, they just have a very long lifespan. I wonder what might have gave me that impression? Perhaps it was some Golaron campaign specific information.
These are all things to keep in mind. I suppose age would anyways weigh more heavily on a human then it would an elf. Hence the desire extend ones lifespan and avoid death would be more prevalent in humans.
You could always do something heroic and live forever in song!
"He who wins shall lose, and he who loses shall win."
Sorry, never mind.
Beyond turning into Fey or a demigod, the monk and a number of 3.5 classes and prestige classes have a "capstone ability" of turning into a new kind of creature (usually an outsider). If your GM agreed, you could always have Agelessness (but not unkillableness) as part of the bargain.
Otherwise... this is the kind of thing players and GMs should work out together to come up with something campaign specific. There any number of ways to dream up artifacts or rituals that might grant the ability, and achieving it could indeed be the goal of a particular game or sidequest. The Quest for the Philosopher's Stone, whether literal or figurative, is always a great story hook.
"Immortality? It's a simple enough request to be sure to certain creatures such as myself."
[mutter]Not that I'm saying precisely what I am...[/mutter]
"Are you really sure that's what you want? Let's have a chat and I'm sure that we can work out some sort of deal. And you know what? I won't even ask for a price. Not now of course. But just remember, it was what you wanted. It was what you -asked- for."