Ever wanted to play the child of a god? Well now you can! Check out the godling here:
http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizo/products/v5748btpy8eda
Hyrum.
Ever wanted to play the child of a god? Well now you can! Check out the godling here:
http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizo/products/v5748btpy8eda
Hyrum.
Looks cool at first glance, i'll give it a thorough read tomorrow
Just remembered I had store credit, so I went ahead and downloaded this. Looks like Owen may had taken my suggestion on mutilple linguistics under the scholar. Neat. =) Will have to read up more.
Just remembered I had store credit, so I went ahead and downloaded this. Looks like Owen may had taken my suggestion on mutilple linguistics under the scholar. Neat. =) Will have to read up more.There's a special thanks in the credits!
Yep! Saw that AFTER I postsed that. Danke!
Very interesting, I may have to use this. As usual a couple questions.
For divine power, what does the godling use as his casting stat? Also, does a godling require foci for their spells? Either arcane or divine?
"Scholar III (Ex): Any time the godling
makes any Knowledge check, he does so
using a bonus equal to his highest total
Knowledge skill bonus."
Does this mean his knowledge check is essentially double the normal bonus? Or does he add all his knowledge skills up and use that as his bonus for each?
For physical/mental avatar talents, does this count for the standard listed stat associated with the skill or what you use. For instance if you have an ability that lets you add strength instead of charisma to intimidate, would that fall under physical or mental avatar?
In the new feat, powerful lineage,
"Benefits: When calculating your effective
cleric level for your lineage domains, you
may use your whole class level, rather than
just your godling levels, to a maximum of
double your godling levels."
Do you mean your whole character level? Because dont class level and godling level mean the same thing?
Also, thanks for the 'additional spellcaster options' sidebar. I appreciate that you took that feedback into consideration.
I think that last feat is meant for either multiclass godlings or the ones that take the PrC. But that´s just a guess.
I agree, but 'class level' is ambiguous in the context of a feat.
I agree, but 'class level' is ambiguous in the context of a feat.
It is ambiguous and I'll get a correct made ASAP. It should be character level.
Hyrum.
Just thought I would say I am really enjoying this class and having just watched Clash of the Titans, oh the possibilities...
Also I would like to say that I have really been enjoying the stuff you folks have put out so far. Along with Paizo and Kobold Quarterly the stuff from Super Genius has become must haves. Any chance will see more Presteige Classes from Super Genius, I would love to see what you folks could! Also any plans to do some aquatic stuff that might be released around the same time as Kobold Quarterly's Sunken Empires, cause that would just be gravy.
Just thought I would say I am really enjoying this class and having just watched Clash of the Titans, oh the possibilities...
Also I would like to say that I have really been enjoying the stuff you folks have put out so far. Along with Paizo and Kobold Quarterly the stuff from Super Genius has become must haves. Any chance will see more Presteige Classes from Super Genius, I would love to see what you folks could! Also any plans to do some aquatic stuff that might be released around the same time as Kobold Quarterly's Sunken Empires, cause that would just be gravy.
agreed, supergenius is very close to a blanket allowed in at my table, which i didnt even do for the 3.5 core rules without alterations. Keep up the good work.
Hopefully some of you guys praising are giving some Genius love for the P20 Modern Patronage Project. hint, hint
Hopefully some of you guys praising are giving some Genius love for the P20 Modern Patronage Project. hint, hint
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Why is it i picture you walking around with one of those sandwich boards with the p20 modern poster on it urizen?
Why is it i picture you walking around with one of those sandwich boards with the p20 modern poster on it urizen?
Wait until you see the P20 Mod boxer shorts, Savaged edition! :P
Why is it i picture you walking around with one of those sandwich boards with the p20 modern poster on it urizen?Wait until you see the P20 Mod boxer shorts, Savaged edition! :P
Talk about targeted advertising.
Talk about targeted advertising.Why is it i picture you walking around with one of those sandwich boards with the p20 modern poster on it urizen?Wait until you see the P20 Mod boxer shorts, Savaged edition! :P
Wait until the missus wakes up the next morning to find the P20 Mod logo tramp stamp tattooed to her backside.
So to sort of get this thread slightly back on track, Any response to these from the geniuses?
Very interesting, I may have to use this. As usual a couple questions.
For divine power, what does the godling use as his casting stat? Also, does a godling require foci for their spells? Either arcane or divine?
"Scholar III (Ex): Any time the godling
makes any Knowledge check, he does so
using a bonus equal to his highest total
Knowledge skill bonus."Does this mean his knowledge check is essentially double the normal bonus? Or does he add all his knowledge skills up and use that as his bonus for each?
For physical/mental avatar talents, does this count for the standard listed stat associated with the skill or what you use. For instance if you have an ability that lets you add strength instead of charisma to intimidate, would that fall under physical or mental avatar?
In the new feat, powerful lineage,
"Benefits: When calculating your effective
cleric level for your lineage domains, you
may use your whole class level, rather than
just your godling levels, to a maximum of
double your godling levels."Do you mean your whole character level? Because dont class level and godling level mean the same thing?
Also, thanks for the 'additional spellcaster options' sidebar. I appreciate that you took that feedback into consideration.
So to sort of get this thread slightly back on track, Any response to these from the geniuses?
Very interesting, I may have to use this. As usual a couple questions.
For divine power, what does the godling use as his casting stat? Also, does a godling require foci for their spells? Either arcane or divine?
"Scholar III (Ex): Any time the godling
makes any Knowledge check, he does so
using a bonus equal to his highest total
Knowledge skill bonus."Does this mean his knowledge check is essentially double the normal bonus? Or does he add all his knowledge skills up and use that as his bonus for each?
For physical/mental avatar talents, does this count for the standard listed stat associated with the skill or what you use. For instance if you have an ability that lets you add strength instead of charisma to intimidate, would that fall under physical or mental avatar?
In the new feat, powerful lineage,
"Benefits: When calculating your effective
cleric level for your lineage domains, you
may use your whole class level, rather than
just your godling levels, to a maximum of
double your godling levels."Do you mean your whole character level? Because dont class level and godling level mean the same thing?
Also, thanks for the 'additional spellcaster options' sidebar. I appreciate that you took that feedback into consideration.
I'll let Owen chime in on the Scholar ability but the feat should be character level.
Hyrum.
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So to sort of get this thread slightly back on track, Any response to these from the geniuses?
Sorry! I'm writing to deadline this week, and haven't been as around as usual. :D
Very interesting, I may have to use this. As usual a couple questions.
For divine power, what does the godling use as his casting stat? Also, does a godling require foci for their spells? Either arcane or divine?
Great questions. Especially the first one. Clever godlings and godling PrC should use Wisdom. Mighty godlings should use Con. And the class ought to say that.
"Scholar III (Ex): Any time the godling
makes any Knowledge check, he does so
using a bonus equal to his highest total
Knowledge skill bonus."Does this mean his knowledge check is essentially double the normal bonus? Or does he add all his knowledge skills up and use that as his bonus for each?
None of the above. It means that whatever Knowldfe skill the godling has at the highest total bonus, he uses that as his bonus for all Knowledge checks. In other words, a Scholar III godling only needs to buy up one Knowledge check, since the rest of his Knowledge skills all use the same bonus. But he still buys ranks and such in that one Knowledge skill normally.
For physical/mental avatar talents, does this count for the standard listed stat associated with the skill or what you use. For instance if you have an ability that lets you add strength instead of charisma to intimidate, would that fall under physical or mental avatar?
I'd say it falls under whatever ability the skill lists normally, so a Strength Intimidator still needs Mental Avatar to get a bonus. If you find a strong reason to run it differently, just hosuerule it for those specific cases.
In the new feat, powerful lineage,
"Benefits: When calculating your effective
cleric level for your lineage domains, you
may use your whole class level, rather than
just your godling levels, to a maximum of
double your godling levels."Do you mean your whole character level? Because dont class level and godling level mean the same thing?
If that was a godling ability, class level and godling level would be the same. But its a feat, so we meant your levels from classes, and not (for example) from racial hit dice. But character level is a much clearer way to say that, so we'll change it.
Also, thanks for the 'additional spellcaster options' sidebar. I appreciate that you took that feedback into consideration.
You are very welcome. We'd be pretty poor gamers if we didn't care what other gamers thought! And we'd be idiots not to listen to our fans, especially the ones who post in a thread that's almost sidetracked talking about how great our products are!
Owen K.C.Stepehens
Super Genius Games
"We err on the side of awesome!"
I just picked this up and will read through it this weekend. Thanks for all the good stuff.
So to sort of get this thread slightly back on track, Any response to these from the geniuses?Sorry! I'm writing to deadline this week, and haven't been as around as usual. :D
Thanks for the answers, and no worries about the time in the reply, I just didnt want the questions to get buried under all the gushing praise ;)
The only lack of awesome is the lack of pages 12 through 32....
Seriously, excellent product, excellent value.
Thanks
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The only lack of awesome is the lack of pages 12 through 32....
Okay, fair enough!
Open question to everyone: If we has twenty more pages, what would you want to see in them? What godling-related, or godling-like, material do you still crave?
We're always on the lookout for things Pathfinder fans want to buy. If you want more of this, let us know!
Seriously, excellent product, excellent value.
Thanks
You are very welcome! Thank YOU.
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Well it´s not directly for the godling itself but some character options for those who are third or fourth generation descendants of gods. They are not godlings themselves but having god blood running through their veins must have some kind of effect.
A god sorcerer bloodline for example, some kind of divine heritage domain, some feats etc.
Well it´s not directly for the godling itself but some character options for those who are third or fourth generation descendants of gods. They are not godlings themselves but having god blood running through their veins must have some kind of effect.
A god sorcerer bloodline for example, some kind of divine heritage domain, some feats etc.
So something along the lines of the ice magic/earth magic products but for godly descendants?
Basically yeah, the format seems to work. thou not as focused on spells as those two.
Well there could be a larger dedication to feats for instance, maybe a feat chain that provided a limited amount of divine ranks for instance?
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I could easily see a Genius Guide to the Children of the Gods, which has new class options (a "my chosen" cleric domain, the godling bloodline for sorcerers, a personal power specialization for wizards descended from gods of magic, and similar things for other classes), a few godling-related spells, and godling-prerequisite feats (with maybe scion as a core feat that lets you take the others if you aren't already a godling).
That sound like what you're looking for?
That sounds exactly what I´m looking for even thou I didn´t know i wanted it until now. :)
Because they have GSP: Genius Sensory Perception!
That sounds exactly what I´m looking for even thou I didn´t know i wanted it until now. :)Because they have GSP: Genius Sensory Perception!
Seriously, they are really good at that. I once joked about them tapping my internet or something, but now its getting a little silly. I need to con my group mates into running multiple pathfinder games so i can try out all the super genius classes.
And yea, you can count me in for this product Owen. I think despite the concern about 'forcing' people to buy additional products, additional support for some of your more popular classes would be a good idea. I certainly like more options for characters and my genius binder can always be upgraded to a larger size ;).
[drives up to the drive-thru window]
Owen: Welcome to Super Genius Games! May I take your order, please?
Customer: I'd like a Godling to go, please.
Owen: Would you like to Genius size that?
Customer: You can do that?
Owen: But of course! We're Geeeeeeeniussssssses.
Hyrum: $Cha-Ching$!
Stan!: Hey, why am I not doing all the talking?
Hyrum: Shut up and sketch me that Kraken! We have a deadline schedule. <cracks whip>
[drives up to the drive-thru window]
Owen: Welcome to Super Genius Games! May I take your order, please?
Customer: I'd like a Godling to go, please.
Owen: Would you like to Genius size that?
Customer: You can do that?
Owen: But of course! We're Geeeeeeeniussssssses.
Hyrum: $Cha-Ching$!
Stan!: Hey, why am I not doing all the talking?
Hyrum: Shut up and sketch me that Kraken! We have a deadline schedule. <cracks whip>
Hey, I resemble that remark! ;)
Hyrum.
[drives up to the drive-thru window]
Owen: Welcome to Super Genius Games! May I take your order, please?
Customer: I'd like a Godling to go, please.
Owen: Would you like to Genius size that?
Customer: You can do that?
Owen: But of course! We're Geeeeeeeniussssssses.
Hyrum: $Cha-Ching$!
Stan!: Hey, why am I not doing all the talking?
Hyrum: Shut up and sketch me that Kraken! We have a deadline schedule. <cracks whip>
I LOVE the idea of "Genius sizing" something.
Now I'd better get back to doodling before Hyrum cracks his whip again.
Demigods usually have flaws. I know that flaw systems have real pitfalls in RPGs. But the oracle curse mechanism could be a good template.
Examples: Odysseus bad luck. (not really a demigod, but he fits the archetype I believe). Hercules loss of self control and guilt-debt. Achilles heel. Thor’s flat out foolishness and stubborn pride. Theseus failed to change the sails and his father committed suicide.
In the stories the gods frequently play a direct role in the lives of demigods. They almost never don’t. Maybe this just needs to be a brief DM’s guide for plot ideas section. But it could also be mechanical in the form of boons (and/or banes) that come with the class. It could also be a subsystem outside the class. The disadvantage of that is having system about one character is disruptive, but the advantage may be that you could use this system for other classes. A Destined Sorcerer could easily be a demigod, and a tack on system for gods meddling would be cool. And that is no less true for a plain old sword and board fighter whose life the gods decide to play chess with.
Along that same line, they almost always have special gear uniquely associated with them. Theseus sword (much like excaliber) had to be retrieved from beneath the stone. Thor’s hammer. Perseus sandals, helm, sword, shield. Odysseus bow. Ostog’s green cloak.
Clearly, low-level demigods is a tricky thing. Hercules killed the vipers in his crib. He was a 3rd or 4th level infant.
Demigods usually have flaws. I know that flaw systems have real pitfalls in RPGs. But the oracle curse mechanism could be a good template.
Examples: Odysseus bad luck. (not really a demigod, but he fits the archetype I believe). Hercules loss of self control and guilt-debt. Achilles heel. Thor’s flat out foolishness and stubborn pride. Theseus failed to change the sails and his father committed suicide.In the stories the gods frequently play a direct role in the lives of demigods. They almost never don’t. Maybe this just needs to be a brief DM’s guide for plot ideas section. But it could also be mechanical in the form of boons (and/or banes) that come with the class. It could also be a subsystem outside the class. The disadvantage of that is having system about one character is disruptive, but the advantage may be that you could use this system for other classes. A Destined Sorcerer could easily be a demigod, and a tack on system for gods meddling would be cool. And that is no less true for a plain old sword and board fighter whose life the gods decide to play chess with.
Along that same line, they almost always have special gear uniquely associated with them. Theseus sword (much like excaliber) had to be retrieved from beneath the stone. Thor’s hammer. Perseus sandals, helm, sword, shield. Odysseus bow. Ostog’s green cloak.
Clearly, low-level demigods is a tricky thing. Hercules killed the vipers in his crib. He was a 3rd or 4th level infant.
All good points . . . except Thor wasn't a demigod. ;)
Although I understand that "comic book Thor" came up, but he's had "mortal reduction syndrome" a few times over the years, which is kind of close to being a demigod.
. . . except Thor wasn't a demigod. ;)
You are 100% right.
But, imo, the difference isn't there for this idea.
(And Odysseus wasn't either)
I'm not talking about Marvel comics.
The Norse legends of Thor portrayed him as quite earthly.
Odin never wore a dress..... :)
I did enjoy Thor and Loki rescuing Freya from the Frost Giants. ;)
I did enjoy Thor and Loki rescuing Freya from the Frost Giants. ;)
Send Beowulf, Samwise Gamgee, and Merlin along with them and you have a D&D session. :)
I enjoyed Godling a ton, I plan on running an all Godling Game for my Friday Night Gaming Session. First character has been made... The Son of the Lame God, Deracles Hephestson. Level 1 Mighty Godling Domain: Artiface. We playtested it last night and it did very well, he did not over run the game and fit in well with the other characters we had in the group.
Looking foward to getting this weeks game off the ground... All I have to do now is come up with a cool gaming hook for a group of Godlings working together.
Postponing Ragnarok. ;)
The only lack of awesome is the lack of pages 12 through 32....Okay, fair enough!
Open question to everyone: If we has twenty more pages, what would you want to see in them? What godling-related, or godling-like, material do you still crave?
We're always on the lookout for things Pathfinder fans want to buy. If you want more of this, let us know!
You are very welcome! Thank YOU.Seriously, excellent product, excellent value.
Thanks
I'd love to see what you guys would build as sample Iconics, a little bit on favored weapons. A tiny section on fitting Godling into your campaign world.
Other than that I feel it was pretty damn good. I got more than my money's worth that is for certain. I plan on looking into more things from Genius keep it up.
I could easily see a Genius Guide to the Children of the Gods, which has new class options (a "my chosen" cleric domain, the godling bloodline for sorcerers, a personal power specialization for wizards descended from gods of magic, and similar things for other classes), a few godling-related spells, and godling-prerequisite feats (with maybe scion as a core feat that lets you take the others if you aren't already a godling).
That sound like what you're looking for?
Love it and I would BUY it.
My current Godling player loves his new character, he had been several years of not playing ie he played 2nd Ed. D&D this got him back in to playing.He even wrote the narration for his Deracles charater ala Hercules and Xena...
"It was a time of myth and legend, a time when the GODS were petty and cruel and plauged mankind with suffering... The world cried out for a HERO... but they got Deracles."
Kudo's for helping me bring an old gamer back into the fold.
Love it and I would BUY it.
My current Godling player loves his new character, he had been several years of not playing ie he played 2nd Ed. D&D this got him back in to playing.He even wrote the narration for his Deracles charater ala Hercules and Xena...
"It was a time of myth and legend, a time when the GODS were petty and cruel and plauged mankind with suffering... The world cried out for a HERO... but they got Deracles."Kudo's for helping me bring an old gamer back into the fold.
Thanks Realmwalker. Comments like your are why I got into the gaming industry. Hope you guys have a ton of fun and please tell Deracles' player thanks from us as well.
Totally made my night. :D
Hyrum.
Super Genius Games
"We err on the side of awesome."
This series are some of my favorite Pathfinder products, and I'm planning an all-godling campaign in the near future. Question: how does "demigod" interact with the actual Leadership feat? Do you have double followers, a bonus, or take a replacement feat?