Beast shape size question


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Can you beast shape into any animal within the size catagory or only what is listed.

For instance if I want to beast shape into a dire lion I would need to use Beast shape II to be a large animal, which grants me: climb 30
feet, fly 30 feet (average maneuverability), swim 30 feet, darkvision
60 feet, low-light vision, and scent if the animal has it.

But a lion also has rake and the first time that is available is at Beast Shape III however that is for Diminutive or Huge creature of the animal type which grants: burrow 30 feet, climb 90 feet, fly 90 feet (good maneuverability), swim 90 feet, blindsense 30 feet, darkvision 60
feet, low-light vision, scent, constrict, ferocity, grab, jet, poison,
pounce, rake, trample, trip, and web if the animal has it.

So would I be able to use Beast Shape III to turn into a Dire lion so I could have pounce and rake and if so what bonus would I take to size the one from beast shape II since its a large animal or would I still take the bonus from beast shape III.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
Draajen wrote:

Can you beast shape into any animal within the size catagory or only what is listed.

For instance if I want to beast shape into a dire lion I would need to use Beast shape II to be a large animal, which grants me: climb 30
feet, fly 30 feet (average maneuverability), swim 30 feet, darkvision
60 feet, low-light vision, and scent if the animal has it.

But a lion also has rake and the first time that is available is at Beast Shape III however that is for Diminutive or Huge creature of the animal type which grants: burrow 30 feet, climb 90 feet, fly 90 feet (good maneuverability), swim 90 feet, blindsense 30 feet, darkvision 60
feet, low-light vision, scent, constrict, ferocity, grab, jet, poison,
pounce, rake, trample, trip, and web if the animal has it.

So would I be able to use Beast Shape III to turn into a Dire lion so I could have pounce and rake and if so what bonus would I take to size the one from beast shape II since its a large animal or would I still take the bonus from beast shape III.

My understanding is you only get bonues up to the actual size of the animal


Paul Watson wrote:

My understanding is you only get bonues up to the actual size of the animal

Ok so I would be able to use Beast Shape III to go into a Dire lion to get rake but I would only get the bonus for Large animal size?

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
Draajen wrote:
Paul Watson wrote:

My understanding is you only get bonues up to the actual size of the animal

Ok so I would be able to use Beast Shape III to go into a Dire lion to get rake but I would only get the bonus for Large animal size?

As far as I understand it, yes.

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