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All I've seen is the map of the Inner Sea region. Has anyone seen (or has Paizo produced) a complete world map of the planet Golarion? If so, where?
Also ... some time back, a person had put up a wonderful web-based Inner Sea site map with links leading to the various maps drawn from campaigns, chronicles, and the like. Paizo had him take it down, but had mentioned possibly making something like that available themselves. Anyone heard any word?
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There hasn't been a full world map produced yet. Currently, the Inner Sea world map is the largest one out there.
Paizo has been working on a version of the map that contains numbers that correspond with a key that lists all of the adventures, meaning there will be an updated version of the map with adventure locations. It'll be appearing in the revised and expanded campaign setting book, and it might be showing up on the website too.
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Also ... some time back, a person had put up a wonderful web-based Inner Sea site map with links leading to the various maps drawn from campaigns, chronicles, and the like. Paizo had him take it down, but had mentioned possibly making something like that available themselves. Anyone heard any word?
Nothing yet, and I'd prefer that they not rush to map out everything quite yet. There should always be room to add something cool later.
I did an approximation of the North Hemisphere which can be found in the archives, and there's a world map coming out in the World Guide: Inner Sea out later this year. In September I think.
Somewhere on the message board someone did a really cool interpretation of what the world might look like I will see if I can find it.
Edit: Found it and at the same time ninja'd by vagrant-poet. Still think this map is awesome.
Like vagrant-poet said, the Revised Campaign Setting book will have a world map in it, though the folks in charge here said it would not be a fold out map, but rather be just either a half or full page in size. But at least we will be getting an official full map of Golarion.
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Also ... some time back, a person had put up a wonderful web-based Inner Sea site map with links leading to the various maps drawn from campaigns, chronicles, and the like. Paizo had him take it down, but had mentioned possibly making something like that available themselves. Anyone heard any word?
*sniffles*
No word unfortunately. I'd relaunch mine if I was allowed. :)
Maybe the world map will get added to the community use files. Who knows!? I'm pretty sure last I heard the world map will be a half page, but should show the south hemisphere, or at least south Garund, if not Sarusan.
At that size we may only get tags at about the scale of the most final of the Dolori maps I did.
Somewhere on the message board someone did a really cool interpretation of what the world might look like I will see if I can find it.
Edit: Found it and at the same time ninja'd by vagrant-poet. Still think this map is awesome.
Thank you! :D
Why the Pap-hatin'?
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Why the Pap-hatin'?
Papyrus is more or less universally loathed by graphic designers and art directors, in my experience. Probably because it's so overused. Maybe because it's a poorly designed font that somehow is still used all the time. In any event, using Papyrus in a map turnover or something like that is a great stealth way to get minus points!
Duly Noted, thank you James.
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I always figured Arial and Times New Roman were the most overused fonts out there. I'll use Papyrus in maps and such for fantasy games, simply because it is more appropriate looking than Arial and Times New Roman. And lord knows I am sick at looking at those two fonts. lol
Papyrus is not that popular simply because it is a harder font to read. It's not crisp and sharp edged like Arial and TNR. Any font that falls into the category of Papyrus is like that, such as Party LET, Jokerman, Herculanum, and Brush Script.
I DO like Skia, and Copperplate a lot though, they sort of bridge the two groups for me.
Just my opinion though.
Papyrus seems a pretty reasonable font to use to label a fantasy world map, though I found a similar one called Plato that I think could be slighlty more perfect. I think it's kind of lame to worry about what "people with good taste" think about a font, if they can suggest a better font to use then good for them, but pretending it isn't appropriate for certain uses is kind of absurd.
I get the impression alot of the criticism centers on it's overuse, i.e. you don't want to be like them, i.e. the un-washed masses, i.e. one has to justify one's sense of superiority somehow. But if there really were a better font for all the situations Papyrus is used, wouldn't somebody design that font, and wouldn't eventually that font be used as often as Papyrus? But that would ruin the whole point then.... :-)
Personally, I think this map is the awesome sauce!
I remember there was discussion about how exactly the current map of avistan/north garund would fit onto a globe, i.e. the scale and latitude of everything. Was that ever concretized, or has it been for the new Campaign Setting map?
I recommend the font creations of Nate Piekos.
I remember there was discussion about how exactly the current map of avistan/north garund would fit onto a globe, i.e. the scale and latitude of everything. Was that ever concretized, or has it been for the new Campaign Setting map?
I can overlay the Dolori map over earth if you'd like, I based it's dimensions and distances on earth, so the tropic of cancer and artic circle etc. are all solid, and the oceans and continents are about right compared to the inner sea.
I recommend the font creations of Nate Piekos.
Awesome, I'll have to figure out how to use them now.
I remember there was discussion about how exactly the current map of avistan/north garund would fit onto a globe, i.e. the scale and latitude of everything. Was that ever concretized, or has it been for the new Campaign Setting map?I can overlay the Dolori map over earth if you'd like, I based it's dimensions and distances on earth, so the tropic of cancer and artic circle etc. are all solid, and the oceans and continents are about right compared to the inner sea.
Sweet!
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Hmmm ... I really like the Papyrus font! I don't tend to see it as being particularly overused either. In fact, I can't recall a time I've ever heard any negativity toward the font.
I use it sporadically in my own designs simply because it is unique looking enough that it is best used as a spice and not a main ingredient but it is still a very worthwhile and valid spice to use.
Just my observations and opinions of course :)
I recommend the font creations of Nate Piekos.
Thanks for that link. For the record, I sort of like Papyrus...but, yeah, I probably wouldn't use it for anything I did beyond our gaming table because of "designer rage". :) Worse than "nerd rage" any day.
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Nate Piekos & Blambot are full of win (as is his Realms of Atland webcomic).
Another font I dislike intently beyond their original products - the Diablo/Planescape font.
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Another font I dislike intently beyond their original products - the Diablo/Planescape font.
Yeah, that one was borderline unreadable for me. White Wolf books would go a little font-happy at times as well, and I'd be like, 'I hope nobody spent a lot of effort writing this stuff, 'cause I'm not gonna hurt myself trying to read it...'
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Getting back to the maps themselves...
Is it possible to get maps for PFS Scenarios and AP's that don't show the location of the bad guys? I noticed that there are not seperate layers in the pdf's. I'm using maptool and a projector to place the maps on the table top (mainly to save time, but also see note below) and it's a bit frustrating when the characters can easily see where the secret doors and hiding monsters are located.
Also, I would like to share with my players the excellent quality of maps that come with these products, instead of just drawing a black lined, stick frame building for their characters to run around in.
Edit: I don't mind the names of locations on the maps, just trying to have a map that doesn't show GM only information.
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Getting back to the maps themselves...
Is it possible to get maps for PFS Scenarios and AP's that don't show the location of the bad guys? I noticed that there are not seperate layers in the pdf's.
They are on separate layers most of the time. What are you using to extract them? If you click on my profile here, there is a link to a PDF extractor that will strip the DM only information from them and re-save them as JPGs
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They are on separate layers most of the time. What are you using to extract them? If you click on my profile here, there is a link to a PDF extractor that will strip the DM only information from them and re-save them as JPGsGetting back to the maps themselves...
Is it possible to get maps for PFS Scenarios and AP's that don't show the location of the bad guys? I noticed that there are not seperate layers in the pdf's.
When I open the layers tab in Adobe, there isn't any layers. Recently I was trying to pull maps out of Kingmaker AP and PFS #16.
Thanks for the extractor, btw.
EDIT: Checked out the other thread, saw that the reason I can't do layers anymore is because of the version of Adobe. ver9.
Nate Piekos & Blambot are full of win (as is his Realms of Atland webcomic).
Another font I dislike intently beyond their original products - the Diablo/Planescape font.
Yay! I know (of) a celebrity (but haven't met him yet)! ...Nate Peikos is one of my wife's cousins
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I recommend the font creations of Nate Piekos.
That is just EVIL! I just added a bunch and now have almost 500 fonts! What am I supposed to do with that many fonts? I mean I am a sucker for a cool looking font, but I STILL only use a handful on a regular bass! UGGGGGGGGGG
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They are on separate layers most of the time. What are you using to extract them? If you click on my profile here, there is a link to a PDF extractor that will strip the DM only information from them and re-save them as JPGsGetting back to the maps themselves...
Is it possible to get maps for PFS Scenarios and AP's that don't show the location of the bad guys? I noticed that there are not seperate layers in the pdf's.
The hardest thing for me to overcome is when I want to open a PDF into Photoshop so I can extract a map at the best dpi I can get, I keep getting the locked message and can't open it. That gets old fast. But seems when I select the map with the tool in Adobe Reader or Acrobat I get the back most layer without GM info. Only problem is I am stuck extracting it at 72 dpi.
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I remember there was discussion about how exactly the current map of avistan/north garund would fit onto a globe, i.e. the scale and latitude of everything. Was that ever concretized, or has it been for the new Campaign Setting map?I can overlay the Dolori map over earth if you'd like, I based it's dimensions and distances on earth, so the tropic of cancer and artic circle etc. are all solid, and the oceans and continents are about right compared to the inner sea.
Try using Google Earth to overlay your map. It will wrap it around as a globe and I found a HUGE difference when that happens. But I also think it makes for a nicer map over all.
I recommend the font creations of Nate Piekos.
Note: No commercial apps can be done with his free fonts except indy "comic" per his free license aggrement.
For all you font-a-holics: The Font Temple has loads of free fonts.
The 3rd font on this page, Merlin, is one of my favorites for readable fantasy fonts. Of course, as a DM, I take sadistic pleasure in using the occasional *almost* unreadble font, with Alchemist being one of my favorites ;)
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I'm hoping that the world map will have at least one continent that Paizo never touches with anything but a vague outline, sort of a GM's playground where you could easily put your own creations or transplant areas from other settings. For example, I would add Ptolus (Malhavoc Press), Zobeck (Open Design), Castle Whiterock (Goodman Games), and the Great City (0one Games), as well as some stuff I would create myself. And it woulds be nice to know that it wouldn't be overwritten.
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I'm hoping that the world map will have at least one continent that Paizo never touches with anything but a vague outline, sort of a GM's playground where you could easily put your own creations or transplant areas from other settings. For example, I would add Ptolus (Malhavoc Press), Zobeck (Open Design), Castle Whiterock (Goodman Games), and the Great City (0one Games), as well as some stuff I would create myself. And it woulds be nice to know that it wouldn't be overwritten.
Sarusan might well end up being that continent... but then again, the point of a published campaign is, to a certain extent, to provide GMs with all the tools they need to run games there. There's nothing preventing you from adding any of the locations you mention above to anywhere you want in your Golarion; we can't overwrite things you do in your own game, after all!
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I'm hoping that the world map will have at least one continent that Paizo never touches with anything but a vague outline, sort of a GM's playground where you could easily put your own creations or transplant areas from other settings. For example, I would add Ptolus (Malhavoc Press), Zobeck (Open Design), Castle Whiterock (Goodman Games), and the Great City (0one Games), as well as some stuff I would create myself. And it woulds be nice to know that it wouldn't be overwritten.Sarusan might well end up being that continent... but then again, the point of a published campaign is, to a certain extent, to provide GMs with all the tools they need to run games there. There's nothing preventing you from adding any of the locations you mention above to anywhere you want in your Golarion; we can't overwrite things you do in your own game, after all!
Then what was with the goblins with torches and dog slicers attacking my place and writing in all my books. A new goblin empire that rules the Golarion world? They was all wearing paizo shirts.
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Then what was with the goblins with torches and dog slicers attacking my place and writing in all my books. A new goblin empire that rules the Golarion world? They was all wearing paizo shirts.
If they were writing in your books, they weren't goblins. Those freaks are afraid of writing, remember? They were probably barghests disguised as goblins, so it's a good thin you didn't challenge them.
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Then what was with the goblins with torches and dog slicers attacking my place and writing in all my books. A new goblin empire that rules the Golarion world? They was all wearing paizo shirts.If they were writing in your books, they weren't goblins. Those freaks are afraid of writing, remember? They were probably barghests disguised as goblins, so it's a good thin you didn't challenge them.
Right right I forgot, I promise I won't forget again. :)
Two of my favorite fonts for this type of stuff are Trajan Pro and Dark11. Dafont.com is the best free font site I've come across, with many fantasy-friendly ones (for example, the elvish/runes category http://www.dafont.com/theme.php?cat=705)
My frustration with Papyrus is that it is used by non-designers because it looks "unique," when in actuality it is so mind-numbingly overused that little parts of my brain explode when I see it.
And then the film Avatar goes and uses it in its logo. All I can figure is that Cameron was all out of budget and when it came time to make the poster he had an aunt with Publisher crank it out for him.
lol that is funny.
I still think Times New Roman and Arial are FAR more overused than Papyrus is. :)
But cameron must be an idiot after all... I mean his movie only made a few hundred million dollars or so... what an idiot. He OBVIOUSLY knows NOTHING at all about design or art.
Imagine how much more it could have made with a kickass logo :)
If i remember it correctly, the English subtitles for the Na'vi language were in Papyrus, too.
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Imagine how much more it could have made with a kickass logo :)lol that is funny.
I still think Times New Roman and Arial are FAR more overused than Papyrus is. :)
But cameron must be an idiot after all... I mean his movie only made a few hundred million dollars or so... what an idiot. He OBVIOUSLY knows NOTHING at all about design or art.
lol well you have me there! lol
Ack I just realized! THAT is why Avatar didn't win the Academy Award for Best Picture! *facepalm* DUH!
Imagine how much more it could have made with a kickass logo :)lol that is funny.
I still think Times New Roman and Arial are FAR more overused than Papyrus is. :)
But cameron must be an idiot after all... I mean his movie only made a few hundred million dollars or so... what an idiot. He OBVIOUSLY knows NOTHING at all about design or art.
lol well you have me there! lol
Ack I just realized! THAT is why Avatar didn't win the Academy Award for Best Picture! *facepalm* DUH!
well, and the fact that it wasn't the best picture :) But, mostly the Papyrus