I wonder if Paizo is planning to do any more hardcovers like the Shackled City one. I understand AoW and ST are out of the question (with WoTC legal issues and all), but with Pathfinder AP’s such as RotRL going slightly out of print, maybe this opens up some options, no? A hardcover omnibus of RotRL with maybe extra content that can also appeal hardcore fans that actually own the original AP?
Any thoughts?
And I support an anniversary hard cover of Rise of the Runelords. :)
me too
especially if they update it to the PFRPG
And I support an anniversary hard cover of Rise of the Runelords. :)me too
especially if they update it to the PFRPG
With some added EPIC flavor (new Runelord etc...)?
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With some added EPIC flavor (new Runelord etc...)?And I support an anniversary hard cover of Rise of the Runelords. :)me too
especially if they update it to the PFRPG
That, obviously, depends entirely on if we know what we're doing with post-20th-level play by the time we get around to deciding to do a Runelords compilation product. Since we currently don't have concrete plans for EITHER of those... who can say?
Although the original intent was indeed to have Karzoug be the middle ground, so that we'd have 3 non-epic Runelords and 3 epic ones. Of course, the world was a much different place when I made that design decision...
Since we currently don't have concrete plans for EITHER of those... who can say?
does that mean there are some preliminary ideas for a Runelords compilation?
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We have preliminary ideas for a LOT of things. Even this thread contains preliminary ideas for a Runelords compilation.Since we currently don't have concrete plans for EITHER of those... who can say?does that mean there are some preliminary ideas for a Runelords compilation?
In other words it's a thought. :)
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Now that the original APs 1-6 are becoming extinct and PFRG is realized, it is only a matter of time. I do understand Paizo's reluctance to create competing products with themselves, but I think they will ride this gravy train one more time.
Then I'll buy the entire Rise of the Runelords adventure path one more time. :-D
Now that the original APs 1-6 are becoming extinct and PFRG is realized, it is only a matter of time.
i hope you're right
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James Jacobs said in another thread that it will happen because there are enough reasons that it should (well, that might be too simplified, but that was the jist of it). However, it isn't planned or on the schedule. That would make it like 1-2 years from now if they suddenly jumped on it tonight.
But yes, I would buy the product all over again. I mean, Pathfinder RPG and the place where Paizo made their brave stand with a mega-splash-gutsy move. Gotta love that.
Though I do see the danger of such a thing competing with other APs, they certainly have broadened their audience with Pathfinder RPG and there is only 1 AP to date that is full-on PFRPG. Such a retro AP would be a great introduction to the lands of Golarion.
Something about RotRL screamed:
"Welcome to our World, Welcome to our World, Welcome to our World of Toys."
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So, as a hoarder of Rise of the Runelords AP this discussion caused me to go to Ebay and check out the prices (one day hoping these are worth more than I bought them for). Someone was trying to sell Burnt Offerings for $144.00 and someone else was trying to sell the map folio for $1000.00. The Map folio was also being sold for $12.95 and Burnt Offerings was not available at another price but Skinsaw Murders was going to $14.99. I remember before Skinsaw Murders was reprinted it was going for $50.00 on ebay. Maybe another six months to a year I can make a deal on copies.
So, as a hoarder of Rise of the Runelords AP this discussion caused me to go to Ebay and check out the prices (one day hoping these are worth more than I bought them for). Someone was trying to sell Burnt Offerings for $144.00 and someone else was trying to sell the map folio for $1000.00. The Map folio was also being sold for $12.95 and Burnt Offerings was not available at another price but Skinsaw Murders was going to $14.99. I remember before Skinsaw Murders was reprinted it was going for $50.00 on ebay. Maybe another six months to a year I can make a deal on copies.
I don't suppose you're a hoarder of the first few flipmats? (And also looking to make a deal on those..)
I'm looking for the out of print ones:
Flipmat: Forest Path
Flipmat: City Square
Flipmat: Tavern (Not the waterfront one, the original)
Flipmat: Dungeon (The old one, not the recent one)
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James, please do a PFRPG hardcover of Rise of the Runelords (with maps and all that included). I discovered Paizo last october and ever since i've been trying to get my hands on a copy of the entire set (after some spoiler reading on the boards). And like Shem said, the first one is way more expensive than I can justify paying for. Hell, I'd pay for a custom order of that kind of thing if it were possible.
As for the 'waiting for the hardcover' issue, why not only do hardcovers of the 3.5 AP's updated to PFRPG. You'd make a sizable amount of cash on that because everyone would love to have it updated, in one place, with the sleek finish.
Maybe we should conduct a poll? That would give you a good idea of how well the book would go over?
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James, please do a PFRPG hardcover of Rise of the Runelords (with maps and all that included). I discovered Paizo last october and ever since i've been trying to get my hands on a copy of the entire set (after some spoiler reading on the boards). And like Shem said, the first one is way more expensive than I can justify paying for. Hell, I'd pay for a custom order of that kind of thing if it were possible.
As for the 'waiting for the hardcover' issue, why not only do hardcovers of the 3.5 AP's updated to PFRPG. You'd make a sizable amount of cash on that because everyone would love to have it updated, in one place, with the sleek finish.
Maybe we should conduct a poll? That would give you a good idea of how well the book would go over?
Keep in mind that we're already running at or a little beyond capacity for how many books we can afford to create, print, ship, and reprint. Each of those costs time and resources and money. When you add "update rules to fit PFRPG" to the situation, things get even more complex.
I appreciate that folks are excited to check out Paizo products and that our older products are staying in demand... but Paizo's sort of like a shark. We have to keep moving or we'll die. And going back to update/reprint older content would impact our ability to keep putting out new content. It's not an easy task.
someone else was trying to sell the map folio for $1000.00. The Map folio was also being sold for $12.95
The Rise of the Runelords map folio is still available on Paizo.com right here: http://paizo.com/pathfinder/pathfinderChronicles/35E/v5748btpy81tn
It's still available on Paizo.com. I got the impression the map folios are in the "slow-moving product" category.
I'd be interested in a hardcover Runelords compilation but not any time soon, and not as much as new material.
I'd be more interested in seeing the back-end materials from the first 12 APs printed as a compilation and the new Golarion monsters making it into a new monster book. (And perhaps a similar treatment for issues 13-24.)
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James, please do a PFRPG hardcover of Rise of the Runelords (with maps and all that included). I discovered Paizo last october and ever since i've been trying to get my hands on a copy of the entire set (after some spoiler reading on the boards). And like Shem said, the first one is way more expensive than I can justify paying for. Hell, I'd pay for a custom order of that kind of thing if it were possible.
As for the 'waiting for the hardcover' issue, why not only do hardcovers of the 3.5 AP's updated to PFRPG. You'd make a sizable amount of cash on that because everyone would love to have it updated, in one place, with the sleek finish.
Maybe we should conduct a poll? That would give you a good idea of how well the book would go over?
Keep in mind that we're already running at or a little beyond capacity for how many books we can afford to create, print, ship, and reprint. Each of those costs time and resources and money. When you add "update rules to fit PFRPG" to the situation, things get even more complex.
I appreciate that folks are excited to check out Paizo products and that our older products are staying in demand... but Paizo's sort of like a shark. We have to keep moving or we'll die. And going back to update/reprint older content would impact our ability to keep putting out new content. It's not an easy task.
Sad Face, James, Big Sad Face....
If I have to choose between old reprint and new material I'll definitely go for the latter.
But since I also discovered Paizo after RotRL came out due to Dungeon put on hold and the abominal D&D 4th edition (and the AP now getting hard - or way too expensive - to retrieve), the original AP sparks my interest.
I also imagine the story to suit a sequel so a hardcover with added material, updated to the new system and with extra baddies (Runelords) or even an added epic quest would be an instant buy for me.
I was just asking though... Curious about what Paizo is going to offer in the future though...And thanks for the reply, James!
anther option, and one I may do as due to cash flow I did not get the first AP is to buy the PDF and have them printed, not as good as a hardback, but better then nothing.
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Paizo knows we want ROTRL compiled into a hardcover. We know Paizo is willing to break the no compilations rule for special occasions.
So the answer guys is to just be patient. When that special occasion is coming up, they'll have a chance to put it in their schedule, which will allow them to make time for it.
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So, as a hoarder of Rise of the Runelords AP this discussion caused me to go to Ebay and check out the prices (one day hoping these are worth more than I bought them for). Someone was trying to sell Burnt Offerings for $144.00 and someone else was trying to sell the map folio for $1000.00. The Map folio was also being sold for $12.95 and Burnt Offerings was not available at another price but Skinsaw Murders was going to $14.99. I remember before Skinsaw Murders was reprinted it was going for $50.00 on ebay. Maybe another six months to a year I can make a deal on copies.I don't suppose you're a hoarder of the first few flipmats? (And also looking to make a deal on those..)
I'm looking for the out of print ones:
Flipmat: Forest Path
Flipmat: City Square
Flipmat: Tavern (Not the waterfront one, the original)
Flipmat: Dungeon (The old one, not the recent one)
Sorry no.
Yikes..
Just realized I went waaay off topic there from the original post.
My apologies.
Hmph, if there were a few more laws around these parts I'd haul you off for that one. Sadly the Magistrates don't seem to mind alittle off topicness in these parts. Oh well, all is forgiven. Nothing to see here people, move along.
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Paizo knows we want ROTRL compiled into a hardcover. We know Paizo is willing to break the no compilations rule for special occasions.So the answer guys is to just be patient. When that special occasion is coming up, they'll have a chance to put it in their schedule, which will allow them to make time for it.
And I want to stress patient. Years!