Perception clarifications


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


Is it just me, or is this skill and mechanic poorly defined.

Are spells that don't contain text about visible effects invisible? For instance, is there any way to perceive a buff like 'heroism'? Or more importantly a zone that has 'Forbiddance' up? Consecrate or Desecrate?

Since forbiddance can be 'shaped' what's to prevent the caster from setting the 10x10 blocks underground and creating a maze of the blocks shaped upon the solid base (mind you, one you can't see)?

What counts as a magical trap? (Which *does* have rules about spotting, DC20+Spell level+4 if no visible effect)

Aren't you glad this thread isn't about stealth?

Sovereign Court

Normally spell effects visual, olfactory, audible, or tactile descriptions are mentioned in the Spells flavor text. If nothing is mentioned then you can't use Perception to spot them without detect magic, analyze dweomer, or arcane sight.

You can use Perception to spot Abjurations if there are more than one in the same area of effect or affecting the same target (object) for 24 hours or more, and the DC drops by 4!

--Vrock solid


King of Vrock wrote:

Normally spell effects visual, olfactory, audible, or tactile descriptions are mentioned in the Spells flavor text. If nothing is mentioned then you can't use Perception to spot them without detect magic, analyze dweomer, or arcane sight.

You can use Perception to spot Abjurations if there are more than one in the same area of effect or affecting the same target (object) for 24 hours or more, and the DC drops by 4!

--Vrock solid

And is that the DC for locating magical traps, or is that DC located somewhere else?

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