Druid wildshaping to a megaraptor

[SunJester]

The Bestiary entry on the deinonychus indicates a couple of ways of developing stats for a megaraptor, basically a large version of the dinosaur. I have not worked out all of the stats for that version, but from the standpoint of using as it as the basis for a druid's wildshape, the only things that seem to be needed are the following:

Size: Large
Move: 60'
Attacks: 2 talons (2d6), 1 bite (2d6), 1 foreclaws (1d6)
Special Attacks: pounce
Reach: 10'

If these are the correct applicable stats for the megaraptor, it looks to be the superior animal form for a druid at 6th level.

Has anyone used this as a basis for wildshaping? Is there any problem with the large version presented here?

[Scipion del Ferro]

One of the problems with the druid is that there's just no good large or huge animal forms for them to assume. This does help them stay on par longer.

[YawarFiesta]

Has any one found the clause that says that you cannot assume the for of an advanced creature or one with a template? I was truing to find it, but I couldn't.

If there isn't any such clause you could simply transform into a Giant Tiger or Giant *insert favorite animal here*; likewise, the young template can be use to gain access to, otherwise, out of reach forms, like the Vrock. Remember that the with the new rules for polymorph there isn't a need for that limitations since ability and armor bonuses are capped.

Humbly,
Yawar

[Scipion del Ferro]

YawarFiesta wrote:

Has any one found the clause that says that you cannot assume the for of an advanced creature or one with a template? I was truing to find it, but I couldn't.

If there isn't any such clause you could simply transform into a Giant Tiger or Giant *insert favorite animal here*; likewise, the young template can be use to gain access to, otherwise, out of reach forms, like the Vrock. Remember that the with the new rules for polymorph there isn't a need for that limitations since ability and armor bonuses are capped.

Humbly,
Yawar

It's in the Transmutation section.

Quote:

Unless otherwise noted, polymorph spells cannot be used to change into specific individuals. Although many of the fine details can be controlled, your appearance is always that of a generic member of that creature's type. Polymorph spells cannot be used to assume the form of a creature with a template or an advanced version of a creature.

[SunJester]

Quote:

Unless otherwise noted, polymorph spells cannot be used to change into specific individuals. Although many of the fine details can be controlled, your appearance is always that of a generic member of that creature's type. Polymorph spells cannot be used to assume the form of a creature with a template or an advanced version of a creature.

I would think that this restriction would not apply to something like the megaraptor mentioned above, however. The Bestiary seems to indicate that such an animal should exist and gives a method for obtaining stats for the creature through the use of templates or through increased hit dice and a size increase.

My understanding is that the beta version included a megaraptor, but it was dropped in the final version of the book to make room for additional dinosaur types.

Using a giant dire tiger would really come down to whether or not the DM indicated that such a species of huge tiger exists in his/her world and whether or not the druid is familiar with the animal.