| skyde |
Heyas,
Yesterday we started a mini-campaign and one of the characters decided to make a 5th level paladin. He decided on a horse as his mount. We played the first session and I think we made some mistakes in creating this mount because it was amazingly good in combat. First of all I decided that we would go with the horse in druid class section and mostly forget the heavy horse in the bestiary (a ignore the word -heavy- in the paladin description).
The mount has attacks bite and hooves (2). These hooves are marked as secondary natural attacks. Since the paladin is a 5th level character the mount gained the "combat trained" feature.
Does this mean the same thing as in the bestiary "war trained" under Horse. Which states that the hooves are only secondary attacks if the mount is lacking this "war training". There is no mention of war (or in combat training) about natural attacks.
Also since the mount gained the combat trained -training. Can you in addition train the mount the 2 bonus tricks which are mentioned in druid animal companion? It says something in handle animal that a mount loses its tricks when it gains combat training.
Right now the mount has three attacks:
Bite: BAB + STR = +8 Dam: D4 + 5 (STR of the mount is 20 = 17 +2 +1)
2 Hooves: +8 Dam: D8 + 5 (it has improved natural attack for the hooves)
If the hooves are still secondary attacks the hooves would be:
Att: +3 Dam: D8 + 2 ( -5 to attack and only half your str mod to dam)
Also if there is a rider on a mount can the mount really do 1 bite, 2 hooves and still allow the rider to do its attacks?
And another thing since the mount has intelligence of 6, do you really need to teach it tricks or combat/wartraining since it is so "smart" ?
And I just realised a horse is a large creature so its size should lower its attack and AC by 1?
Sorry about all these questions but my fingers would just not stop :)
Best regards,
skyde
| skyde |
Seek and you shall find. I little bit of googling and I found this place:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/extras/pathfinder-faq
Q: I was trying to stat up a horse animal companion when I realized under druid animal companions, the advanced horse section says special ability: war trained (see Pathfinder Bestiary). I looked, but did not see anything. What exactly is this referring to in the bestiary?
A: (James Jacobs 11/25/09) War trained is actually detailed in the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook under the description of "Handle Animal," on page 98. Of course, there it's called "Combat Training." It's one of the "general purpose" trainings you can give an animal. As detailed on page 177 of the Bestiary, horses in particular gain a special benefit once they're combat trained-their hooves are from that point treated as primary weapons, not secondary ones.
So the hooves are primary weapons which answers the main point of my question.