Note the monk ability specifically mentions morning, so they can only refresh their Ki pool once per day.
2 hours counts as 8 hours of sleep. Sleep is resting, so a barbarian or monk with a ring of sustenance need only sleep for 2 hours to get their abilities back.
The general rule is that this cuts the need to sleep for 8 hours down to 2 hours to get your daily abilities back, but you can still only refresh your abilities once every 24 hours.
I wouldn't split hairs on it. If anything refers to rest, you should allow the ring to work on it. That includes rage and ki pool.
Yeah, if anyone should recover their abilities after 2 hours it should be a monk, in fact, Wholeness of Body should act as a ring of sustenance by itself.
I know that in 3.0/3.5 abilities that you could use a certain amount of times per day mean that once you used them you couldn't use another for 24 hours. For example drow Darkness, if you used it at 9pm you couldn't use it until 9pm the next day. That being said NO ONE did that, it's too much hassle, you rest you get back your per day abilities no problem.
Along the same vein wizards get super screwed if they miss a little sleep or have to cast a spell in the middle of the night. I usually handwave that nonsense too.
Meatrace just a note but this line has always been there since 3.0:
"Rest
To prepare her daily spells, a wizard must first sleep for 8 hours. The wizard does not have to slumber for every minute of the time, but she must refrain from movement, combat, spellcasting, skill use, conversation, or any other fairly demanding physical or mental task during the rest period. If her rest is interrupted, each interruption adds 1 hour to the total amount of time she has to rest in order to clear her mind, and she must have at least 1 hour of uninterrupted rest immediately prior to preparing her spells. If the character does not need to sleep for some reason, she still must have 8 hours of restful calm before preparing any spells. "
so interruptions just meant more time needed... casting though did end up eating a slot though.
Meatrace just a note but this line has always been there since 3.0:
"Rest
To prepare her daily spells, a wizard must first sleep for 8 hours. The wizard does not have to slumber for every minute of the time, but she must refrain from movement, combat, spellcasting, skill use, conversation, or any other fairly demanding physical or mental task during the rest period. If her rest is interrupted, each interruption adds 1 hour to the total amount of time she has to rest in order to clear her mind, and she must have at least 1 hour of uninterrupted rest immediately prior to preparing her spells. If the character does not need to sleep for some reason, she still must have 8 hours of restful calm before preparing any spells. "
so interruptions just meant more time needed... casting though did end up eating a slot though.
....I know it has been there since 3.0, that's why I said so in my post...
All I was saying is that it seems overly punishing to arcane caster types. So the wizard is resting and the rogue pokes him, whoops one more hour. Again? One more hour. Etc, etc etc etc etc. Nonsense to me.
The errata ruling for spells was specific...the Eight Hours is a Hard Limit, not a Soft Limit. The wizard may only need to sleep for two hours, but still needs eight hours of restful actitivy (sitting around chatting, stretching, meditating, etc) in total to get spells back.
I'd apply the same ruling to rage and ki pools. Eight hours is the hard limit, but only two hours of sleep for purposes of mundane things like exhaustion, fatigue, etc. The characters will be nearly impossible to catch asleep...that's the major benefit of the ring, as well as never having to eat or drink again. But the Eight Hour Hard Limit doesn't go away...it's a level higher then the mundane abilities that Sustenance takes care of.
==Aelryinth
The errata ruling for spells was specific...the Eight Hours is a Hard Limit, not a Soft Limit. The wizard may only need to sleep for two hours, but still needs eight hours of restful actitivy (sitting around chatting, stretching, meditating, etc) in total to get spells back.
I'd apply the same ruling to rage and ki pools. Eight hours is the hard limit, but only two hours of sleep for purposes of mundane things like exhaustion, fatigue, etc. The characters will be nearly impossible to catch asleep...that's the major benefit of the ring, as well as never having to eat or drink again. But the Eight Hour Hard Limit doesn't go away...it's a level higher then the mundane abilities that Sustenance takes care of.
==Aelryinth
Except the ring specifically states that the two hours is enough for spells. It is quite explicit in this.
Ring of Sustenance and daily class abilities :
Divine Casters : they get their spells at a defined moment of the day, after some prayers ; they don't even need to rest to get them. => no change.
Arcane Casters : bards and sorcerers get spells per day, so the ring has no influence on them. Wizards need 8 hr of rest to get spells back. But the ring description says : "This allows a spellcaster that requires rest to prepare spells to do so after only 2 hours, but this does not allow a spellcaster to prepare spells more than once per day". So the ring may help the wizard or any other arcane caster to rest faster but they won't be able to recharge used spells.
Barbarian : number of rage rounds per day is renewed after resting 8 hrs so Ring should work.
Monk : Ki pool's recharge is in the morning, so the ring has no effect
I wouldn't split hairs on it. If anything refers to rest, you should allow the ring to work on it. That includes rage and ki pool.
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