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It appears that Amy Bishop had anger problems that were totally unrelted to D&D. In addition to shooting her brother, she also tried to steal a car at gunpoint from a nearby auto shop immediately afterward. and then there was this:
In March 2002, Bishop walked into an International House of Pancakes restaurant in Peabody with her family, asked for a booster seat for one of her children, and learned the last seat had gone to another customer, according to a police report.
Bishop strode to the customer, identified in the report as Michelle Gjika, demanded the seat and, after a profanity-laced rant, punched her in the head while yelling “I am Dr. Amy Bishop.’’
Bishop did not plead guilty, according to court documents, but admitted there was enough evidence to prosecute her. In exchange, she received probation. Court records are unclear on whether a judge granted the prosecutor’s recommendation she take anger management classes.
I wonder if D&D made her do this too. :)
edit: The whole story.
Thanks, Snorter! This will give me a great excuse to write Mike a letter. Haven't seen him in two years. He's a really sweet guy. I can say that because he gifted Ed Healy and I some expensive sound equipment he was no longer using. If you ever see him just ask him for free stuff! ;)Let's hear it for Limeys with OCD!
I can't remember where I put a set of Allen keys last week, but I can sure as hell recall who wrote an article 20 years ago, totally pwning the book-burners of the day.
If you've got access to the Dragon back-issues (or the 250-issue CD ROM), do a search through the editorials. Roger Moore had several good ones, dealing with the differentiation between fantasy and reality (ie how he dealt with a burglar), the misinforming of police forces (similar to what's in Stackpole's article) and his experiences as an Army psychologist (re; which is more damaging? Gaming or religion?). Definitely worth a read, if you haven't seen them before, and worth a re-read, even if you have.What did you get from Mike? The sound system from his Battlemech? You could fit some serious woofers on a Hunchback.
Please, someone draw this...
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Does anyone else think rehashing the argumet Ross just deleated is not a good idea? Seems like a good way to ge the thread locked.Huh? I don't think I claimed that your statements were, I just suggested that some of your statements (which thankfully have been removed) were using the same sort of faulty reasoning used in the article. I found that ironic. That's all :)
Oh, and Guy Humual is wrong about something. My statements aren't getting read by a million people, probably mostly ignorant about DND, whose opinions are being formed by someone who doesn't have a clue.
That arguement wasn't the one that got deleted. I'm not going to apoogize for the statements I made, either. Too many celebs do that now adays, and I don't feel like following their example.
I'm not going to apoogize for the statements I made, either. Too many celebs do that now adays, and I don't feel like following their example.
What? Just…what? What does one have to do with the other? Lots of celebs breathe too. So let's see you not follow that example.
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Suspect in slays fan of ‘Pancakes’
Accused campus killer Amy Bishop was a devotee of International House of Pancakes - just like Michael “Mucko” McDermott, the lone gunman behind the devastating workplace killings at Edgewater Technology in Wakefield in 2000.
Bishop, now a University of Alabama professor, and her husband James Anderson met and fell in love at an International House of Pancakes restaurant while biology students at Northeastern University in the early 1980s, and were heavily into breakfast, a source told the Herald.
“They even ate breakfast for dinner,” the source said.
When questioned about it yesterday, Anderson, 45, a research scientist in Huntsville, Ala., dismissed the gluttonous escape as “a passing interest. It was a culinary thing more than anything else. It’s not the fatso group people think they are.”
McDermott studied engineering at Northeastern in the late 1980s, but Anderson said he never met him. Police seized two half-eaten pancakes from McDermott’s Haverhill apartment after he shot seven co-workers to death on Dec. 26, 2000.
The popular breakfast food has a long history of controversy, with objections raised to its high calorie count and unhealthy levels of trans fats. Some experts have cited the pancake-eating backgrounds of people who were later involved in violent crimes, while others say it just a meal. A federal appeals court recently upheld a prison ban on pancakes in Wisconsin, where prison officials reportedly testified they were afraid the delicious pancake syrup could promote “hostility, violence and escape behavior.”
Watch out! I had pancakes yesterday.
Watch out! I had pancakes yesterday.
Oh god..I just took the wife out for unlimited pancakes at IHOP!!!!
Studies have shown that people who consume eggs, flower or milk are twice as likely to commit acts 50% of the time.
Studies have shown that people who consume eggs, flower or milk are twice as likely to commit acts 50% of the time.
Uh-oh.
hmmm...
The other day on tv I saw Elmer Fudd shoot Daffy Duck point blank in the face with a double-barreled shotgun. I wonder if it makes kids want to grab daddy's hunting rifle and try this at home.
I dont know about you guys/gals but some of my previous neighbors probably did need an Anvil dropped on their head and picturing an old boss or two strapped to a huge ACME™ rocket would be funny.
Moral of the story... violence in cartoons is safe and ok, but video games and tabletop games may cause homicidal tendencies? Journalists/Reporters make me laugh.
hmmm...
The other day on tv I saw Elmer Fudd shoot Daffy Duck point blank in the face with a double-barreled shotgun. I wonder if it makes kids want to grab daddy's hunting rifle and try this at home.I dont know about you guys/gals but some of my previous neighbors probably did need an Anvil dropped on their head and picturing an old boss or two strapped to a huge ACME™ rocket would be funny.
Moral of the story... violence in cartoons is safe and ok, but video games and tabletop games may cause homicidal tendencies? Journalists/Reporters make me laugh.
I truly love the Coyote and the Roadrunner. They are my favorite old school Looney Tunes characters next to Daffy Duck.
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I wonder if D&D made her do this too. :)
edit: The whole story.
No, but D&D allowed her to get away with it. It's all those charm spells she keeps using to convince law enforcement officers to do a half-assed job and daze spells that prevent judges from remembering to require anger management classes. If not for D&D, she might have gotten some help or been locked up or both.
edit: The whole story.Suspect in slays fan of ‘Pancakes’
Accused campus killer Amy Bishop was a devotee of International House of Pancakes - just like Michael “Mucko” McDermott, the lone gunman behind the devastating workplace killings at Edgewater Technology in Wakefield in 2000.
Bishop, now a University of Alabama professor, and her husband James Anderson met and fell in love at an International House of Pancakes restaurant while biology students at Northeastern University in the early 1980s, and were heavily into breakfast, a source told the Herald.
“They even ate breakfast for dinner,” the source said.
When questioned about it yesterday, Anderson, 45, a research scientist in Huntsville, Ala., dismissed the gluttonous escape as “a passing interest. It was a culinary thing more than anything else. It’s not the fatso group people think they are.”
McDermott studied engineering at Northeastern in the late 1980s, but Anderson said he never met him. Police seized two half-eaten pancakes from McDermott’s Haverhill apartment after he shot seven co-workers to death on Dec. 26, 2000.
The popular breakfast food has a long history of controversy, with objections raised to its high calorie count and unhealthy levels of trans fats. Some experts have cited the pancake-eating backgrounds of people who were later involved in violent crimes, while others say it just a meal. A federal appeals court recently upheld a prison ban on pancakes in Wisconsin, where prison officials reportedly testified they were afraid the delicious pancake syrup could promote “hostility, violence and escape behavior.”
That is fantastic.
I've removed some posts.
Do not deliberately restart arguments that were removed by the moderators. If we got rid of it, it doesn't belong here.
I can not seem to find the flag button on the Boston Herald.
Heh. Me either, damn it.
I've removed some posts.
Do not deliberately restart arguments that were removed by the moderators. If we got rid of it, it doesn't belong here.
Thanks for the heads up, Ross.
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I went to IHOP once and ordered a steak.
I now make you aware of how very wrong I was to do that. It was quite possibly the most disgusting thing I've ever eaten.
Is that like the time I went to Uno's Pizzeria and ordered the salmon?
I was out of work for almost a week.
(True story.)
CHICAGO... HISS!
<melts>
Just kidding.
One question: why are the original inflammatory posts NOT getting removed, while the (justified) responses get taken down?I've removed some posts.
Do not deliberately restart arguments that were removed by the moderators. If we got rid of it, it doesn't belong here.
Suffice it to say that the offensive comments I was referring to were taken down.
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Suffice it to say that the offensive comments I was referring to were taken down.One question: why are the original inflammatory posts NOT getting removed, while the (justified) responses get taken down?I've removed some posts.
Do not deliberately restart arguments that were removed by the moderators. If we got rid of it, it doesn't belong here.
Yeah, read your responses in the other thread about posts that had been taken out of context being taken down. Thanks for the response, by the way.
Well, at least Pathfinder isn't getting any negative publicity.
Just don't let them know that we no longer have to kill our opponents to keep Cleave going. Now bring forth the Herald staff and stand them adjacent to each other.
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No, but D&D allowed her to get away with it. It's all those charm spells she keeps using to convince law enforcement officers to do a half-assed job and daze spells that prevent judges from remembering to require anger management classes. If not for D&D, she might have gotten some help or been locked up or both.I wonder if D&D made her do this too. :)
edit: The whole story.
I'm still ticked off that my first DM never offered to teach m real magic like the Chick Tract says he was supposed to.
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I'm still ticked off that my first DM never offered to teach m real magic like the Chick Tract says he was supposed to.
The kid who lived next door to me (when I was growing up)told me that the books were full of the Devil's Power and that, if you tore the pages, they would mend themselves.
I never got one of those books. What a money-saver they would have been!
Well, at least Pathfinder isn't getting any negative publicity.Hmmm....good point. They're just talking about that D&D game...:)
Yes, I remember in an older thread, someone commented that one advantage of Pathfinder RPG is that it doesn't have all the bad publicity and related baggage that the name Dungeons & Dragons has in some circles.
I myself got a lot of garbage from people in High School because of the nerdy-sounding name.
But Pathfinder? That's a name I can loudly, in public. It doesn't sound even remotely nerdy.
That post I mentioned earlier said something like "Dungeons and Dragons? Never heard of it. I play Pathfinder!"
The thing I love about this Boston Herald article? "Yeah, let's post it online. People who play D&D and other murderous, mind-twisting RPGs are never on the internet."
Aaron, was your last post mentioned actually a comment on the article?
No, that was d20 Modern.