Playing yesterday, I informed my DM that being in a desert type area, my character would be dazzled due to the light sensitivity affinity. I was told this does not affect Half-Orcs (not very experienced in PF). My question is based on the description on pg 301 of the Bestiary, Darkvision and Low-Light vision creatures/characters would be affected by light sensitivity. Am I correct, or am I stretching the rule too far?
Half-Orc Racial Traits
+2 to One Ability Score: Half-orc characters get a +2 bonus to one ability score of their choice at creation to represent their varied nature.Medium: Half-orcs are Medium creatures and have no bonuses or penalties due to their size.
Normal Speed: Half-orcs have a base speed of 30 feet.
Darkvision: Half-orcs can see in the dark up to 60 feet.
Intimidating: Half-orcs receive a +2 racial bonus on Intimidate skill checks due to their fearsome nature.
Orc Blood: Half-orcs count as both humans and orcs for any effect related to race.
Orc Ferocity: Once per day, when a half-orc is brought below 0 hit points but not killed, he can fight on for one more round as if disabled. At the end of his next turn, unless brought to above 0 hit points, he immediately falls unconscious and begins dying.
Weapon Familiarity: Half-orcs are proficient with greataxes and falchions and treat any weapon with the word “orc” in its name as a martial weapon.
Languages: Half-orcs begin play speaking Common and Orc. Half-orcs with high Intelligence scores can choose from the following: Abyssal, Draconic, Giant, Gnoll, and Goblin
As you can see above in my quote of the Pathfinder Resource Document, half-orcs do not have light sensitivity as a racial trait. Thus... they would not suffer from negative effects due to light conditions.
Thank you! This works out in my favor then.
No problem. I find that this LINK is useful for getting used to the rules if you do not have access to a Core PRPG book.
I think the RAW means half-orcs have light sensitivity, but the devs have made it very clear that's not at all what they meant.
I think the RAW means half-orcs have light sensitivity, but the devs have made it very clear that's not at all what they meant.
If that were true... then dwarves would have light sensitivity as well. (If we just go off of having Darkvision) If we include low-light vision, then elves, half-elves, and gnomes would all also have light sensitivity.
Thus... if a race as listed in the core PRPG does not say it has light sensitivity... then it does NOT have it. Simple! :)
Light Blindness and Light Sensitivity are both separate weaknesses that do not automatically go hand in hand with the ability of darkvision or low light vision.
Something to remember, Half-orcs are also Half-human.
If that were true... then dwarves would have light sensitivity as well. (If we just go off of having Darkvision) If we include low-light vision, then elves, half-elves, and gnomes would all also have light sensitivity.
Not going off of Darkvision, but rather the "Orc" subtype.
From the PRD Creature Types and Subtypes:
Orc Subtype: This subtype is applied to orcs and creatures related to orcs, such as half-orcs. Creatures with the orc subtype have darkvision 60 feet and light sensitivity.
Wow, it even mentions Half-Orcs specifically....
Thus... if a race as listed in the core PRPG does not say it has light sensitivity... then it does NOT have it. Simple! :)
Except when another part of the PRD says it does. :p
NeoFax, check with your DM. Remember Rule 0. :)
Sigh...
If the DM is going to rule-zero it thats fine. However... if the race was meant to have light sensitivity they would have added to the Half-orc racial stats and not buried it in a DM only book under a two sentance sub-type blip. Considering that none of the other races have light sensitivity as a penalty and the half-orcs are already "under powered" as is by most peoples opinion... it'd be silly to impose that.
The player should not be looking in the Bestiary for player info.
Well, regardless, the devs said flat-out 'no, half-orcs don't have light sensitivity.'
And also claim the orc subtype rule doesn't say half-orcs have light sensitivity.
While I don't agree with the logic of that claim and think the 'orc subtype' rather clearly DOES say 'half-orcs have light sensitivity,' I'm perfectly happy going by what the devs say they meant rather than what the text says.
Well, regardless, the devs said flat-out 'no, half-orcs don't have light sensitivity.'
And also claim the orc subtype rule doesn't say half-orcs have light sensitivity.
While I don't agree with the logic of that claim and think the 'orc subtype' rather clearly DOES say 'half-orcs have light sensitivity,' I'm perfectly happy going by what the devs say they meant rather than what the text says.
Can you show a link to where they say that? Closest I've found is this:
Jan 14-15 2010 forum threadTalks about how crowded the Race chapter is, and they handled stuff a particular way to save space.
Anyone seen any official Errata page for PF?
Little edit asking about an errata. Hit send too soon. :)