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Not that these people need help, rather it is the traffic of Journalists and Bozo ex presidents who insist on getting priority landing on Haiti and fly around in choppers kicking out a few boxes to groups of thousands and telling us how in need these people are when Banks have just gotten away with economic genocide and been paid for it.
imagine that poor soul who has lost everythin lying under a tarp that is suddenly blown away by the down draft of a Blackhawk chopper because some news crew wants to film the carnage of thousands reaching up to the chopper door for a food box that will feed one family.
It is also the most ill managed US program ever. What they needed was Cargo Containers of Food and those helicopters designed to do the heavy lifting that would move those cargo boxes from the Deck of an Aircraft Carrier exclusively for the Use of the UN Aid Program, and notchoked with Fighter jets, Blackhawk choppers, and bombs; An Aircraft carrier which becones a floating hospital. And deploy specialized cargo containers to sites where emergency Aide centres and Mobile Hospitals could be set up in the field.
It should offend us all to see that an army of US occupation had priority over all other traffic including UN Millitary Personel.
You are, as always, an antiamerican idiot. Quit taking your talking points from Chavez and shut the hell up, jackass.
What really disgusts me is asshats like you using the tragedy in Haiti to advance your pathetic agenda.
Go to hell.
Wow, you came back!
YD, your summoning power is AWESOME!
Can you get crosswiredmind and Frank Trollman back, too?
Word.
In before the lockdown!
(Gotta admit, YD is picking a cheap fight)
What they needed was Cargo Containers of Food and those helicopters designed to do the heavy lifting that would move those cargo boxes from the Deck of an Aircraft Carrier exclusively for the Use of the UN Aid Program
In response to the above...
U.S. sends 5 more ships to help Haiti
The U.S. is sending five auxiliary ships to Haiti to help unclog the bottleneck of aid shipments stuck offshore because they can’t be unloaded in the wrecked harbor of Port-au-Prince.Two crane ships, a special causeway and barge-handling ship, a specialized oil-delivery ship and a high-speed ferry will join the armada of Navy, Coast Guard and Military Sealift Command vessels on station or converging on Haiti, responding to the humanitarian crisis that has developed in the wake of a devastating earthquake last week.
Note: The air drops were just an extra because the actual transport process is so slow.
“Within 48 hours of arrival on station, [Petersburg can begin] pumping 1.2 million gallons per day from up to four miles off shore and at water depths down to 200 feet. If the ship is moored within two nautical miles of the shore, two different products may be pumped simultaneously through two separate conduits,” according to information from MarAd.
The Huakai can transport passengers, vehicles or cargo at around 40 knots, so it could serve as a high-speed link between Haiti and Naval Station Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, or Miami.
MarAd’s announcement did not say when the ships were expected to sail or when they were expected to arrive in Haiti. A MarAd spokeswoman did not respond to Navy Times’ request for more information.
All but one of the ships announced Monday is sailing from Norfolk, Va. Petersburg’s homeport is Alameda, Calif., so it will have a longer journey through the Panama Canal before it reaches the Caribbean.
Note separate from the link: I work at Norfolk Naval Shipyard...
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an Aircraft Carrier exclusively for the Use of the UN Aid Program, and notchoked with Fighter jets, Blackhawk choppers, and bombs; An Aircraft carrier which becones a floating hospital.
Well, that takes time because it isn't a matter of a few hours to remove all those planes and such. Have you ever been involved with the magnitude of operation involved in an availability of an aircraft carrier? I have. Ships must be equipped/provisioned to handle the problem at hand. The logistics involved onthis scale are tremendous.
But, there is more in response to the above from another link...
U.S. Navy ships head for Haiti
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WASHINGTON, Jan. 14 (UPI) -- A U.S. aircraft carrier and a hospital ship are en route to Haiti with 5,500 soldiers and Marines from Fort Bragg and Camp Lejeune, N.C., officials said.
The USS Carl Vinson, with three operating rooms and a few dozen hospital beds on board, was scheduled to arrive Friday in Haiti, The Christian Science Monitor reported.
The hospital ship, the USNS Comfort, which has 250 beds, is not expected to leave Baltimore until this weekend and may not reach Port-au-Prince until late next week. The ship was still loading supplies, officials said.
The USS Carl Vinsom is an aircraft carrier which will be used as you seem to be hoping for...
Floating Hospital Awaits Patients to Fill Empty Beds
The vessel is there and has been ready to go but there have been difficulties with those on the ground transporting in. That should change now that US forces are there in numbers.
The USNS Comfort was in the middle of an availability when the crisis occurred. That means that crew were largely on leave and there were not provisions (medical or otherwise) onboard and that the ship was connected to shore power and had to go through a lengthy disconnection process. Disconnection, recalling of crew, transporting of supplies to the site before a lengthy loading all adds up to time spent.
And deploy specialized cargo containers to sites where emergency Aide centres and Mobile Hospitals could be set up in the field.
That is what is happening.
It should offend us all to see that an army of US occupation had priority over all other traffic including UN Millitary Personel.
The statement above baffles me. The US military is the armada that is doing all the things you say they should be doing. The UN is no help because they were wiped out and do not have a navy to accomplish the sealift. The US navy does. It is called the MSC, or the Military Sealift Command. From the link with emphasis added myself:
Military Sealift Command operates approximately 110 noncombatant, civilian-crewed ships that replenish U.S. Navy ships, conduct specialized missions, strategically preposition combat cargo at sea around the world and move military cargo and supplies used by deployed U.S. forces and coalition partners
This logistics nightmare falls under the heading of "conduct specialized missions".
I get the impression that many simply have absolutely no idea of the scope of this and how difficult this task is to accomplish. And frankly, the UN does not have on hand the available resources to distribute the aid or even to direct the operation. The US does.
What a thread, yellowdingo vs chatdemon rich is back.
What a terrible tragedy in Haiti. I encourage everyone who can afford to do so to donate to a LEGITIMATE charitable organisation to get help, food, medicine etc over there.
Even if it means taking something out of your gaming budget.
+1
Is chatdemon rich a sock puppet of Yellow Dingo?
Yellowdingo, I think I have the perfect solution for you. How about if the US of A stops helping everyone outside of the US of A? ~wicked smile~ Heavens knows that we could use the money here to help out with our own problems. How about if we pull all of our troops back and take an isolationits policy as we had after WW I, much to our dismay during WW II? Or how about you shut up and actually HELP OUT for once? Put your money where your mouth is!!! Yes, the US has it's issues and problems, but we help out more than ANY OTHER country does in the whole wide world. ~shakes my head~ Whatever, Yellowdingo. All you want to do is cause trouble and be a rabble rouser. Grow up and be an adult! Nothing is ever prefect in this world, but we do the best that we can with what we can. Hindsight is 20 / 20.
DINGO'D!
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What they needed was Cargo Containers of Food and those helicopters designed to do the heavy lifting that would move those cargo boxes from the Deck of an Aircraft Carrier exclusively for the Use of the UN Aid Program
In response to the above...
U.S. sends 5 more ships to help Haiti
The U.S. is sending five auxiliary ships to Haiti to help unclog the bottleneck of aid shipments stuck offshore because they can’t be unloaded in the wrecked harbor of Port-au-Prince.Two crane ships, a special causeway and barge-handling ship, a specialized oil-delivery ship and a high-speed ferry will join the armada of Navy, Coast Guard and Military Sealift Command vessels on station or converging on Haiti, responding to the humanitarian crisis that has developed in the wake of a devastating earthquake last week.
Note: The air drops were just an extra because the actual transport process is so slow.
** spoiler omitted **...
Well thank god something is getting done other than the Journalists starting food riots and political grandstanding. Pity they dont bother with that sort of inclusion on our News outlets.
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You are, as always, an antiamerican idiot. Quit taking your talking points from Chavez and shut the hell up, jackass.
What really disgusts me is asshats like you using the tragedy in Haiti to advance your pathetic agenda.
Go to hell.
And you DO realize, don't you, that Bill Clinton is the UN Envoy to Haiti? Or are you talking about George W Bush, who is there working with Clinton? Or is your head so far up your ass that you're talking about one of our dead presidents?
They still didnt need to push back the arrival of a portable medical centre belonging to doctors without borders so they could go stand infront of a TV crew surrounded by thousands of hungry and injured and dying. They could have done that on the Steps of the US Capitol.
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Well thank god something is getting done other than the Journalists starting food riots and political grandstanding. Pity they dont bother with that sort of inclusion on our News outlets.Every time you post you prove yourself more ignorant. Journalists causing riots? Food riots and crime is par for the course in Haiti, it's been that way forever.
Try using the 'net for news if yours sucks. If you can get past your childish hatred of everything american long enough to use a search engine.
I dont Hate America, I hate stupid people - the USA just happens to be top heavy like most regimes.
Of course if you could prove that A Journalist kicking a single food parcel into a crowd of a thousand from a chopper didnt start a fight where as deploying a cargo container of supplied did, i would like to see it.
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Of course if you could prove that A Journalist kicking a single food parcel into a crowd of a thousand from a chopper didnt start a fight where as deploying a cargo container of supplied did, i would like to see it.I could prove many things.
I could prove I've been to Haitim and you haven't. So what?
I could prove I've donated to this crisis and you haven't. So what?
I could point out that you've already admitted that your "news" is carrying incomplete coverage. So what?
You've done a fine job for years proving how much you hate America. I don't feel a particular need to prove anything to little boys posting from their mother's basement. I only feel a need to call b#%~*~*# when you do so at the expense of a nation of people who need to be prayed for and helped, not used as ammunition in a pathetic loser's continuing tirades.
Actually, they dont need to be prayed for or told this was because they dont believe in an American God the way Indonesians were after the Tsunami of 2004...just the help will be fine.
My News coverage is back woods - but it all comes from US News Sources.
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Actually, they dont need to be prayed for or told this was because they dont believe in an American God the way Indonesians were after the Tsunami of 2004...just the help will be fine.My News coverage is back woods - but it all comes from US News Sources.
Yeah, you hate christians too, I get it.
Funny, our media is reporting on the aid when they mention the military presence needed to expedite delivery. Now you're starting to contradict yourself, but that's your way isn't it? Multiple people have rebuked you, some more bluntly than others, so now it's time to start claiming you didn't mean exactly what you said, right?
Typical.
Pathetic, but typical.
Hardly accurate...perhaps you should just call me a muslim Terrorist (me apparently being anti American Anti Christian). I see some of those US troops are mercenaries.
Yellowdingo, I think I have the perfect solution for you. How about if the US of A stops helping everyone outside of the US of A? ~wicked smile~ Heavens knows that we could use the money here to help out with our own problems. How about if we pull all of our troops back and take an isolationits policy as we had after WW I, much to our dismay during WW II? Or how about you shut up and actually HELP OUT for once? Put your money where your mouth is!!! Yes, the US has it's issues and problems, but we help out more than ANY OTHER country does in the whole wide world. ~shakes my head~ Whatever, Yellowdingo. All you want to do is cause trouble and be a rabble rouser. Grow up and be an adult! Nothing is ever prefect in this world, but we do the best that we can with what we can. Hindsight is 20 / 20.
Good suggestion. Send some money, YD.
Anyway, this is a tragedy. All tragedies become photo ops... why? Human nature. It's not America's fault.
Does anyone else think this thread should be punctuated with golf claps, or is it just me?
Agreed, but I'm bringing along the smallest violin in the world, too, if you don't mind.
This is why I wear my riot goggles 24/7.