Pixie pc?


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Ok im buying my books at the end of the month and Ive been mulling over the idea of playing a pixie char in pathfinder.

I did a search here and found an old archive post about it that links to wotc,s d20 site and the builds there look amazing,if a bit complicated for my old brain.

But they use a lot of 3.5 books and if im going Pathfinder im going all the way!

So any Ideas for Pixie builds purely based on Pathfinder?

And if you were a DM would you let me play one in your world?

PS Id like too point out I like the RP idea of it most and would be quite happy taking RP consequences for playing one!

Thanks in advance! and I cant wait till february!! :D


If I were your DM, I would encourage you to play a quickling sorcerer. (from Arcana Unearthed or Evolved.


I made a Pixie race for 3.5 that'd probably translate to PF easily enough. I just have to find it. My version of the Pixie is the Tinkerbell variety though, so be forewarned. We're talking pretty hefty penalties to Strength and Constitution but Stellar bonuses to Dexterity and Charisma. These buggers are quicker than a housefly. Size-wise, they were around 5-6 inches tall. What would that be? Diminutive? Fine?

Anyhoo, let me know if you want me to dig them up.


Not keen on quicklings im afraid,sorry,Id be happy with Petal though!

Even if it does mean I cant actually carry my share of the gold! :)

Edit: Oooh yeah Id love too see those @Dork Lord


The big balance problem for a pixie is that a caster gets a lot of mileage out of being miniscule: big hit bonus for ranged touch, big AC bonus.

Heck, same with rogues... you can be a pretty reliable sniper-rogue with an innate +8 or +12 or more to Stealth.


tumbler wrote:
If I were your DM, I would encourage you to play a quickling sorcerer. (from Arcana Unearthed or Evolved.

Agreed. It's really the best way to go if you want to play a tiny-sized fey as a PC. I'm doing the very same thing myself for our new Rise of the Runelords campaign. Few modifications are needed to bring it inline with the Pathfinder system.

In fact, I find that the Arcana Evolved stats for the faen marry themselves much better to the background story provided for Golarion gnomes than the updated 3.5 gnome stats do. I talked my GM into making the substitution while keeping the racial description, name and background info for gnomes intact.

I'll be playing my PC (using the stats for a quickling faen) as a conventional gnome until 3rd level when I can undergo the metamorphosis into a faen spryte. Even here though, there's a ready stand-in race that's already a part of the Golarion setting; the lyrakien. So at 3rd level, although I'll be using the stats for a faen spryte, I'll be calling myself a "lyrakien" and playing their campaign specific role as a servant of Desna.

This effectively gives both races a bond to each other. The background story that my GM and I came up with is that Desna (whom the gnomes and lyrakien call the Faerie Queen) grants those gnomes who are faithful to her the opportunity to escape the curse of the bleaching by accepting to undergo the metamorphosis into lyrakien. Should be fun. :)


You may find this method I devised for Pathfinder of doing creatures which would otherwise have level adjustments may be helpful.


Petals are also pretty cool.


Let's see... use it all or just bits and pieces... or even none of it, hehe. I hope it's useful to you.

Race: Pixie (Diminutive Fey)
-12 Strength
-6 Constitution
-2 Wisdom
+12 Dexterity
+6 Charisma

Speed: Pixies have a land speed of 5 feet and a Fly speed of 60 feet (Perfect)

Low Light Vision

Racial Skill Bonuses: +2 Perception

Note: Sense Motive is never a class skill for a Pixie. Pixies tend to be quite trusting... some may even say gullible.

Also, treat a Pixie as having 2 racial hit dice for the purposes of determining a PC build under Pathfinder rules... The Pixie does not actually have these hit dice, but it's abilities help to make up for this.

Automatic Languages: Common and Sylvan

Weapon and Armor Proficiency: All Simple Weapons, Short Sword, Longbow. No armor or shields. See size chart for Diminutive weapon damage.

Spell-Like-Abilities:

Invisibility@Will (Natural state is invisible)
Dancing Lights@Will
Irresistible Dance 1/Day


That's the standard MM Pixie. The Pathfinder Bestiary Pixie is not the same - it's Small, not Dimunutive, and it's stats aren't as extreme.


Dabbler wrote:
That's the standard MM Pixie. The Pathfinder Bestiary Pixie is not the same - it's Small, not Dimunutive, and it's stats aren't as extreme.

D&D pixies have always been small. They've never been the "Tinkerbell" variety, nor have their stats been anywhere near as extreme as the ones I submitted. Even in 3.0/3.5 they're basically just Halflings with wings and some spell-like-abilities.


There is one reason I would never allow a Bestiary pixie:

Bestiary wrote:


Invisibility (Su) A pixie remains invisible even when it attacks. This ability is constant, but the pixie can suppress or resume it as a free action.

An at will, supernatural invisibility effect means that the Stealth skill is redundant, that the rules for Perception are meaningless with regards to this character, that the character becomes an instant, super scout, and becomes very broken as a rogue or any full caster. At CR4.

I did, however, allow a PC to play a grig sorceror, from the old d20SRD, as a PC, with the understanding that the grig did not have access to the irresistable dance SU ability.


TreeLynx wrote:


An at will, supernatural invisibility effect means that the Stealth skill is redundant, that the rules for Perception are meaningless with regards to this character, that the character becomes an instant, super scout, and becomes very broken as a rogue or any full caster. At CR4.

Not really. You will still want stealth. As a likely (or near to) single digit hp PC at level 4 you don't want to be seen, felt, heard, or even near dangerous things.

-James


A pixie ranged rogue... man. Pretty much sneak attack all the time, from day 1.


Dork Lord wrote:


nor have their stats been anywhere near as extreme as the ones I submitted.

Nothing ever had -12 in anything. That puts the average pix at -2 Str.


Minimum Strength is 1 of course... which makes sense for a 6 inch tall flying creature.


that thing is not playable, and the str penalty is meaningless excuse to get high dex.


And the point of high Dex when you're likely dealing a single point of damage on an attack is what? The race is all flavor. You think Tinkerbell could lift more than a few ounces?


Sneak attack, other ranged stuff.

Granted, going from 1d8 arrows to 1d1 (or, more likely, crossbows, since bows still have a Str requirement) is bad, but when you can Deadly Aim all the time and hit pretty much any time you want...

Ranged touch attacks are also boosted massively, but that's less important.

Also, massive AC.


awesome AC, touch attack, attack bonus, sneak attacks, initiative, spell casting.. I could squeeze out some more, but I doubt tinkerbell wouldnt profit in some way ^_^


+ 12 dex is beyond flavour, you just need + 2 dex for flavour, + 12 is something else


Must admit i was thinking more these stats,and I wouldnt ask for irresistable dance[mind Id take it it the chance was there!..or on second thoughts ...mmmm no. bit too much!]

http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19871070/The_Pixie_Handbo ok


It was just an idea. *shrugs* Next time I'll just keep them to myself.

Sorry, not in the best of moods today.


If you aren't prepared for people to analyze and possibly decide an idea doesn't work, don't offer it on a public forum.

Just the breaks.


Hey ,I appreciate the input of EVERYONE that took the time and trouble too answer,seems not many would let me in there campaign tho :)

Scarab Sages

I played a pixie char in a campaign years ago (dont ask me for stats but they were from MM) I was pretty much invis all the time & was playing a rogue with LA - wasnt broken but I was regularly in trouble all the time since the party never knew where I was (since I was constantly invis) they either couldnt use AOE spells or sometimes I would get caught & poof no me (well under the 0 hps) & then they quickly had to try & find a small invis fairy who was unconscious & dying sometimes in battle - I eventually dumped the char as unplayable or I was going to be limited to long range sniping - no fun - made a terrific scout though

so be warned


Ceefood wrote:

I played a pixie char in a campaign years ago (dont ask me for stats but they were from MM) I was pretty much invis all the time & was playing a rogue with LA - wasnt broken but I was regularly in trouble all the time since the party never knew where I was (since I was constantly invis) they either couldnt use AOE spells or sometimes I would get caught & poof no me (well under the 0 hps) & then they quickly had to try & find a small invis fairy who was unconscious & dying sometimes in battle - I eventually dumped the char as unplayable or I was going to be limited to long range sniping - no fun - made a terrific scout though

so be warned

The status spell is your friend.

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