I'm going to propose something dirty and cheap that you may or may not be able to pull off.
Step 1: Study his armor carefully, take notes of what it looks like, etc.
Step 2: Make or commission steel armor designed to look just like his armor, with a layer of non-steel material on each side of it to deceive the druid.
Step 3: provide some reason for the druid to need to get out of his armor (and if he doesn't actually wear armor then find some reason for him to need to put it on, this part may be very difficult, infact possibly impossible, but that's why this is a dirty underhanded trick rather than a direct confrontation angle)
Step 4: replace his armor with the metal armor that looks like his armor.
Step 5: Once he's put it on, attack him full force. He won't have access to ANY of his druidic abilities. He's basically an Expert class of his level at this point, and should make for an easy kill.
Wow, Kyrt, you're a d-ck! :D
I might go ahead and add that druids have crap reflex saves, so spells like Call Lightning & Flame Strike are solid choices to throw out some damage. Despite being able to take on some great forms, druids (especially ones that don't focus on wildshape) are vulnerable to all sorts of combat maneuvers- especially grapple. Summon yourself some allies to shut him down in a horrific bear hug and lay on the damage.
If he still has his animal companion, be sure to have Dominate Animal or Hide from Animals prepared, and shut down the battlefield with Transmute Rock to Mud, stone shape, & wall of thorns. Since he's a gnome I'd probably avoid Poison (still a favorite of mine), as well as Entangle (since he'll get a bonus to his save).
Grappling is really your best bet- take away his ability to do ANYTHING and then shut down his animal companion with Dominate Animal or Hide from Animals. Then it's gravy.
I'm in a primarily evil party. One of the members, a gnome druid of tenth level has crossed the line, my druid intends to get rid of the problem. I have a tenth level fighter and gm imposed limitations on transformation. I am only a ninth level druid. I do not transform into any powerful animals due to the gm's idea of level adjustment. The fighter has leadership over a small tribe of very low level barbarians. I would welcome any ideas or strategies.I'm going to propose something dirty and cheap that you may or may not be able to pull off.
Step 1: Study his armor carefully, take notes of what it looks like, etc.
Step 2: Make or commission steel armor designed to look just like his armor, with a layer of non-steel material on each side of it to deceive the druid.
Step 3: provide some reason for the druid to need to get out of his armor (and if he doesn't actually wear armor then find some reason for him to need to put it on, this part may be very difficult, infact possibly impossible, but that's why this is a dirty underhanded trick rather than a direct confrontation angle)
Step 4: replace his armor with the metal armor that looks like his armor.
Step 5: Once he's put it on, attack him full force. He won't have access to ANY of his druidic abilities. He's basically an Expert class of his level at this point, and should make for an easy kill.
not to mention a bit weird and unlikely, a non-metal armor that weighs like metal and many small changes which you can't possibly account for will throw near anyone off. As a DM I would not allow to let a player get away with this, not at the expense of another player, that will solid grounds to object a wisdom check (at best) will likely mess up the plan fairly easily.
It is fairly easy to kill anyone in his sleep, just make sure you can do one good hit as a fullround action with a weapon with a good crit chance, it will more than likely finish anyone near your level off.
I'm in a primarily evil party. One of the members, a gnome druid of tenth level has crossed the line, my druid intends to get rid of the problem. I have a tenth level fighter and gm imposed limitations on transformation. I am only a ninth level druid. I do not transform into any powerful animals due to the gm's idea of level adjustment. The fighter has leadership over a small tribe of very low level barbarians. I would welcome any ideas or strategies.
1. Get a potion of invisibility and an oil of silence. Cost: 600 gp.
2. Drink the potion and apply the oil to yourself late at night -- preferably with some strength buffs.
3. Sneak up to him while he's sleeping. This should be easy if you're a wildshaping druid.
4. Wildshape to something with a decent Strength bonus.
5. One coup de grace and he's dead.
6. Steal his items.
7. Profit!
I'm confused, too. Do the fighter AND the 9th level druid want to kill the 10th level druid?
Have a potion brewer make you a potion of fireball (CL 10) disguised as a cure critical wounds with Nystul's magic aura. Sure it's expensive but you'll be talking about that one for years to come.
Coup d'Grace in his sleep.
1. ok, so you want to kill a fellow player, fine your game, personally I think it is more fun not to kill eachother.
2. Killing someone is easy do you really need advise from people how to go about it ?
3. People playing evil characters that end up killing eachother isn't usually a game with a level of maturity and roleplaying I appreciate.
I just hope it won't destroy the game for either of you, since it does happen quite often with these things.. I am wondering though what did he do to push your character over the edge.
Hurt him with your violence!
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If your playing a primarily evil party, and you want to correct your druid, deal with his animal companion. My wife plays druids a lot, so if you want to be evil, take out the animal companion and make a cloak out of it. Cause if you just kill the gnome, their next character is just going to be designed with the express purpose of killing your PC. If your in a dungeon and you off his pet and make it a cloak. He's without a companion and most dungeons don't have animals in them. That and he may have a grudge but he also has a strong reminder of what happens when he crosses the line.
DDT.
Agent Orange.
Paraquat.
I'm double confused by who is killing who and which character you're playing.
Hire an assassin.
Cause if you just kill the gnome, their next character is just going to be designed with the express purpose of killing your PC.
Yeah, and that will totally not happen if you do even nastier stuff.
Can't you people resolve your petty issues with pistols at dawn like civilised gentlemen?
I think hiring the assassin would make for a fun encounter with kinda shifting the malice towards the DM rather then player on player.
Poisen is out because the immunity at 9th level.
Well your a druid, so summon up some beasties and then go wail on him. One level you vs him aint gonna make a big difference especially if your backed up by a 10th level fighter.
Eh ya could always back stab him in a fight, wait till he is fighting something hard and turn on him...make sure ya got a way out after he is dead however
I'm confused, too. Do the fighter AND the 9th level druid want to kill the 10th level druid?Yes. My problem is that I cannot wild shape into anything larger than a dog in exchange for the healing domain. An ability druids usually lack. THe GM thought the party needed a healer and as compensation for my race (gnoll) he decided to limit my wild shape. Anything I wild shape into is only a carrion eating animal of medium or less size.
Well, in that case, get him in his sleep. Use potions or a spellcaster to make you stealthy, invisible, and maybe even silent. Buff up your to hit and damage abilities any way you can, with strength buffs and Greater magic weapon, etc. Have the fighter attempt a coup de gras, then follow up with your own full attack (your companion's, too, if you can bring it) in the same surprise round.
Even if you don't kill him immediately, he's still prone, and even wildshaping into a bird, one of you should be able to finish him off next round. Have a Wind Wall ready to stop or slow him if he tries to fly away.If I were a druid attacked in my sleep and low on hp, I'd turn into a tiny bat or owl and try to get away. I could shape into something meaner, but I'd be easier to hit.
Getting past the barbarians shouldn't be hard. Fighting your way out shouldn't be, either. They may not even hear his death rattle.
I have no problem with inter-party killing if you're evil, anyway. Comes with the territory.
My 2cp.
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I'm a fan of death by sleeping. Here's my preferred method, if you have the casters/resources for it.
10th lvl fighter and 9th lvl druid vs 10th level druid...
That gives you 5th level druid spells.
*He's* got lvl 5 spells, and 50-60 hps.
SO you'll have surprise round and maybe first round for actions.
Before hand, buff yourself and your warrior friend with bulls strength, bears endurance, barkskin, all that good stuff.
Consider casting heat metal on the fighters armor. He should have the hitpoints to survive, and it might just be the count that puts the druid over the edge. If you do, make sure your surprise round is round 3 of heat metal.
Surprise round: Both of you need to stand right next to him. You cast Flame Strike, which will do 9d6 damage, with a reflex save. He'll take a nice penalty to his already weak save since he's sleeping. You'll do anywhere from 9 to 54 damage, with the average being 31 points of damage on a failed save. Have your fighter friend grapple and attempt to pin your druid. *if you used heat metal on the fighter previous to this, then add 2d4 flaming fighter damage, or an average of 5 damage.
Whether or not he succeeds on the pin isn't crucial, as long as your opponent has to deal with him.
First full round: You cas flame strike again. Your opponent takes a penalty to dex (and thus to reflex saves) while grappled. Your friend should continue trying to pin him. You do another average 31 damage to him, and your friend *with heat metal* will do another 5 points.
After surprise round and first round, that puts your average damage up to 72 points. Probably enough to have killed your druid.
If you're really, really, really paranoid, you can make a bit more insurance.
Use your other turns to summon several Ankylosaurus with those 5th level spells you're not using. You can have them surround your sleeping target as well. They do 3d6, and also have a dc 23 will save or be dazed for one round. Helps to keep an old dog down :)
Two elements needed to make it a cake walk
1: druid sleeps
2: you are ready to kill said druid
Summon a Cyclops as per Summon Nature's Ally V (assuming you are playing pathfinder)
On round Cyclops appears you order it to coup de gras (using power attack)the sleeping druid. Cyclops hits and crits for 9d6 + 39. Average damage 70. Now said druid needs a fort save DC 80 or die.
If you need to do the summoning quietly you need either A) a priest to cast silence or B) a scroll of silence if your use magic device is high enough.
Be about 100 feet away from sleeping druid when silence is cast on a stick. Run toward druid for 2 rounds and be within 40 feet of druid. Cast Summon Nature's alley V Cyclops, having it appear next to you. Tell him the orders. Watch as druid dies in spray of blood yet totally quiet.
Blame death of druid on rampaging Cyclops that suddenly vanished after you tried to save your 'friend'
Loot corpse
Enjoy
Another idea while he is sleeping.
Cast Balefull Polymorph at maximum distance while he is sleeping. If he fails his save he is now a turtle, dispose of turtle.
If he makes his save he may wake up. At this you lay down and pretend to be sleeping. Spell is over no way for him to determine what was cast. Not sure if it was you, the evil wizard of the evil cleric in the party. Or some NPC mage out to kill him.
Rinse and repeat until you get a turtle.