Apparently, in Pathfinder you can take feats multiple times. However, their benefits don't stack unless they say they do.
The Dodge feat grants a +1 dodge bonus to AC, and according to the Core book dodge bonuses stack with other dodge bonuses. Does that mean I can take the Dodge feat multiple times and have it's effects stack? After all, it heavily implies that it stacks with itself by calling it a dodge bonus to begin with.
Bonuses from the same source never stack, even if the bonus type is stackable (like dodge bonuses are).
Apparently, in Pathfinder you can take feats multiple times. However, their benefits don't stack unless they say they do.
The Dodge feat grants a +1 dodge bonus to AC, and according to the Core book dodge bonuses stack with other dodge bonuses. Does that mean I can take the Dodge feat multiple times and have it's effects stack? After all, it heavily implies that it stacks with itself by calling it a dodge bonus to begin with.
Huh? I had not noticed the ability to take feats multiple times.
On a related note, does Toughness stack with itself?
As far as I remember, Toughness does stack with itself. Each time you take the feat, you get the bonus HP.
Apparently, in Pathfinder you can take feats multiple times. However, their benefits don't stack unless they say they do.
The Dodge feat grants a +1 dodge bonus to AC, and according to the Core book dodge bonuses stack with other dodge bonuses. Does that mean I can take the Dodge feat multiple times and have it's effects stack? After all, it heavily implies that it stacks with itself by calling it a dodge bonus to begin with.
The Feat description should tell you if you can take it multiple times and if it stacks with itself.
Quickly from the PFSRD,
Dodge cannot be taken multiple times (rendering stacking with itself moot)
Fleet can be taken multiple times and stacks with itself
Toughness cannot be taken multiple times (3.5 Toughness was different and did stack)
As always, if this does not meet your needs or style of play, change it.
Hope that helps.
You can only take a feat multiple times if the feat states you can take it multiple times. The line that stated that in the toughness feat was removed (on purpose) and you may not take it multiple times. Dodge doesn't have a line in it that states you may take it multiple times so you may not take it multiple times.
You can only take a feat multiple times if the feat states you can take it multiple times. The line that stated that in the toughness feat was removed (on purpose) and you may not take it multiple times. Dodge doesn't have a line in it that states you may take it multiple times so you may not take it multiple times.
Interesting. I didn't catch that note (or non note) in toughness. Anyone know why they didn't let you take it multiple times? I'm just curious. Did it not make sense? I don't think it would be overpowered with all the other feats you can take now.
You can only take a feat multiple times if the feat states you can take it multiple times.
Oh. I'm sorry. I was misinterpreting the text on page 113, "if a character has the same feat more than once, it does not stack unless indicated otherwise in the description," to mean that you could take ANY feat multiple times, though there is generally no benefit to doing so. My mistake.
I'm so busy looking for differences between Pathfinder and D&D that I'm finding some that don't even exist. :P
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You can only take a feat multiple times if the feat states you can take it multiple times. The line that stated that in the toughness feat was removed (on purpose) and you may not take it multiple times. Dodge doesn't have a line in it that states you may take it multiple times so you may not take it multiple times.Interesting. I didn't catch that note (or non note) in toughness. Anyone know why they didn't let you take it multiple times? I'm just curious. Did it not make sense? I don't think it would be overpowered with all the other feats you can take now.
As a general rule, we don't want folks taking the same feats over and over and over because that's kinda boring. In Toughness's particular case, taking it multiple times would grossly inflate your hit points WELL beyond what the game expects them to be for your CR/Level.
You can only take a feat multiple times if the feat states you can take it multiple times. The line that stated that in the toughness feat was removed (on purpose) and you may not take it multiple times. Dodge doesn't have a line in it that states you may take it multiple times so you may not take it multiple times.Interesting. I didn't catch that note (or non note) in toughness. Anyone know why they didn't let you take it multiple times? I'm just curious. Did it not make sense? I don't think it would be overpowered with all the other feats you can take now.
PF Toughness scales as you level. There is no reason to take it several times.
From the PRD under "Feats"
Benefit: What the feat enables the character (“you” in the feat description) to do. If a character has the same feat more than once, its benefits do not stack unless indicated otherwise in the description.
So, unless the feat specifically says it stacks.. then it does not.
-S
From the PRD under "Feats"
Benefit: What the feat enables the character (“you” in the feat description) to do. If a character has the same feat more than once, its benefits do not stack unless indicated otherwise in the description.
So, unless the feat specifically says it stacks.. then it does not.
-S
Ironically, the text you are quoting to support your interpretation is the same text that led me astray. :P
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I can see that the Dodge feat doesn't stack, but what about non-feat dodge bonuses? I am looking at creating a Kensai/Duelist. They both have the Canny ability, which grants a dodge bonus to AC. Dodge bonuses stack, unless they come from the same source, correct? Does this count as the same source(Canny) or different sources(Kensai and Duelist)? I'm leaning towards not stacking, but if they stacked that would be freaking awesome, to quote my teenage daughter.
Dodge Bonuses: Dodge bonuses represent actively avoiding blows. Any situation that denies you your Dexterity bonus also denies you dodge bonuses. (Wearing armor, however, does not limit these bonuses the way it limits a Dexterity bonus to AC.) Unlike most sorts of bonuses, dodge bonuses stack with each other.
From the PRD, emphasis mine.
Dodge Bonuses: Dodge bonuses represent actively avoiding blows. Any situation that denies you your Dexterity bonus also denies you dodge bonuses. (Wearing armor, however, does not limit these bonuses the way it limits a Dexterity bonus to AC.) Unlike most sorts of bonuses, dodge bonuses stack with each other.From the PRD, emphasis mine.
Even dodge bonuses from the same source? If a wizard cast a spell that granted a dodge bonus, could it be cast repeatedly on the same person, pumping their AC through the roof?
Even dodge bonuses from the same source? If a wizard cast a spell that granted a dodge bonus, could it be cast repeatedly on the same person, pumping their AC through the roof?Dodge Bonuses: Dodge bonuses represent actively avoiding blows. Any situation that denies you your Dexterity bonus also denies you dodge bonuses. (Wearing armor, however, does not limit these bonuses the way it limits a Dexterity bonus to AC.) Unlike most sorts of bonuses, dodge bonuses stack with each other.From the PRD, emphasis mine.
No, because spells don't work that way. For example, you could cast haste on your party and give them a +1 dodge bonus to AC. However, if you cast the spell again the next round, the only thing it will do is "reset" the duration of the spell, because they're already under the effects of haste. Spells don't stack with themselves.