Atlantis Found?

[David Fryer]

Link

[Dragonborn3]

David Fryer wrote:

Link

NOOOOOOO!!!!

I wanted to find it...[/grumble]

[David Fryer]

I hear you.

[Crimson Jester]

Maybe

*They don't say who they are.
*They won't say where the ruins are.
*They're trying to raise money.

[David Fryer]

I have a picture of Santa Claus. Send me money!

[SilvercatMoonpaw]

DAMMIT! Now I have to hide it all over again. :cryingface:

[yellowdingo]

"Archaeologists have found the ruins of an ancient city on the bottom of the Caribbean Sea, and researchers claim that it is the fabled and lost city of Atlantis."- Bastards...probably on the Cuban Shelf, thats why they wont talk. Unless Googlemaps lied about that funky 100 mile wide City beneath the sea like marking they Claimed was a Sattelite image ompression mark...

[yellowdingo]

apparently not

[Kruelaid]

Are there any hot Atlantean chicks?

[Mikaze]

Dibs on the biotech.

[Kruelaid]

Invisible airplanes and Amazon chicks?

Wonder woman?

<hopeful>

[Kruelaid]

yellowdingo wrote:

apparently not

Those shots look like such BS.

<crushed... profanity>

[yellowdingo]

Kruelaid wrote:

yellowdingo wrote:

apparently not

Those shots look like such BS.

<crushed... profanity>

The original photos are are dark and shitty - if you contrast them they become clearer. Still i notice once again a US group is violating foreign waters with the promise to hand over the location and finds to the island nation that owns the territory.

[Carnivorous_Bean]

yellowdingo wrote:

Kruelaid wrote:

yellowdingo wrote:

apparently not

Those shots look like such BS.

<crushed... profanity>

The original photos are are dark and s*@#ty - if you contrast them they become clearer. Still i notice once again a US group is violating foreign waters with the promise to hand over the location and finds to the island nation that owns the territory.

Well, on the other hand, at this point, they supposedly haven't 'violated' it with anything other satellite imagery. If that's a violation of foreign waters, then every tourist from every country on Earth who has a camera is doing the same.

Furthermore, we have no proof at this point that even if this thing isn't a hoax, that they're NOT going to seek permission from the Cubans to look at it. Heck, for all we know, they've already asked the Cuban government and gotten a 'go ahead, we don't care.' The article doesn't go into minute detail about their planning, and just because it's not stated specifically that they're seeking permission doesn't mean that they haven't and/or aren't planning to.

I mean, there are often archaeological discoveries by foreign teams in Egypt in the news, but even though they don't describe how they went through the bureaucratic channels every time, we don't necessarily assume that they just invaded Egypt, do we?

So it seems a bit hasty to go accusing them of "omgz brutal Amerikan territorial violations" when all they've done so far is point a telescope at this alleged site.

Mind you, they sound like big-time scam artists to me, but at this point at least, they're not territorial violators unless using Google Earth -- or a road map, for that matter -- is the same as trespassing.

[LazarX]

Actually as I understand it the currently most accepted idea for the inspiration of Plato's Atlantis is the destruction of the island of Thera, a very cosmopolitan colony of Minoan Empire I think. The explosion produced a tsunami which had wide impact all around setting up the decline and fall of said Empire. The timing of the explosion is generally around the events of Exodus and may very well have inspired the story of the parting of the Red (Reed) Sea as well.

Thera was known for being very advanced for it's day, one of the few cities to feature both multi-story dwellings and indoor plumbing. The remnant island exists today as the crescent known as Santorini.

[Lyingbastard]

Atlantis couldn't have been anywhere but the Mediterranean Sea, because the cultures that tell of Atlantis never ventured to the Atlantic - the Egyptians mostly hugged the coast, jogging from port to port up Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Cyprus, etc. The Greeks (specifically Plato) got the legend from the Egyptians.

You can actually book a vacation on Atlantis, btw. It's called Santorini now, though. See, it's this tiny cresent shaped island with a huge natural harbor, which is the caldera of the explosive eruption that destroyed the Minoan / "Atlantean" civilization there.

[David Fryer]

I've always been interested in this site.

[Devlyn, Jack o' Nine Dales]

David Fryer wrote:

I've always been interested in this site.

Graham Hancock's Underworld might be an interesting read for you then, if you haven't already peeked at it. :)

[DoveArrow]

I found this in the comments section on the Huffington Post website.

Grant Thompson wrote:

Mystery solved.

I work with satellite imagery and these patterns appear where the image is very low contrast (I could show you an example from the waters around Manhattan).The patterns are produced by noise in the sensor, exacerbated by compression/expansion and contrast stretching during post-processing. I actually spend quite a lot of time trying to get rid of them...

They are not to be confused with jpeg compression artifacts, which are not as linear/orthogonal. I've only seen these patterns from satellites using pushbroom-type scanning sensors.

You get them in imagery from Mars, too, and you can imagine the hoo-ha that that creates...

[Carnivorous_Bean]

The other interesting thing is that the "Atlantis is in the Mediterranean" debate is pretty pointless. All they're saying, so far as I can see, is that they think they found an underwater city. The foreign press linked to even makes that point that they aren't mentioning Atlantis, claiming Atlantis, or even hinting that it's Atlantis, and it's just sensationalism on the part of MSNBC that's causing the mention of "Atlantis."

It's just the American press that's splashing around "Atlantis." So Atlantis doesn't even enter into it -- the question is whether they have found a city, not Atlantis, which they don't think it is and nobody but a few hysterical online journalists trying to boost page hits has mentioned.

My vote, mind you, is still for a modern city with a blue lens over it and a big scam to get 'research money,' or a misidentified geological formation.

I'm just pointing out that "sunken city" does not inevitably imply "Atlantis," so saying "Atlantis is in the Mediterranean, so this can't be a sunken city" isn't really an argument, because every sunken city does not need to be Atlantis.

(I'd like it to be a sunken city, because it would be kind of fun, but I have so much doubt about it being genuine that I have literally 0% expectation of it being anything but a hoax or a mistake.)

[The Jade]

i saw a documentary that showed a significant archaeological find. A submerged city that may have been the basis for Atlantis. It wasn't far from Greece. Seemed plausible and non-hyperbolic. Wish I could remember the details.

[Carnivorous_Bean]

Is this the one you're thinking of?

Helike

[yellowdingo]

If it turns out to be Egyptian - there are going to be a lot of spanked bottoms.

[Crimson Jester]

yellowdingo wrote:

If it turns out to be Egyptian - there are going to be a lot of spanked bottoms.

Yes but it won't.

[Orthos]

yellowdingo wrote:

If it turns out to be Egyptian - there are going to be a lot of spanked bottoms.

I'm curious why.

[yellowdingo]

Orthos wrote:

yellowdingo wrote:

If it turns out to be Egyptian - there are going to be a lot of spanked bottoms.

I'm curious why.

All the experts would have got it wrong...having openly ridiculed its proponents. That earns them a smacked botty!

[Orthos]

yellowdingo wrote:

Orthos wrote:

yellowdingo wrote:

If it turns out to be Egyptian - there are going to be a lot of spanked bottoms.

I'm curious why.

All the experts would have got it wrong...

Explain.

[The Jade]

Carnivorous_Bean wrote:

Is this the one you're thinking of?

Helike

Start a Carnivorous Bean fan club. I'll join it. I do believe that's it.

[yellowdingo]

The Jade wrote:

Carnivorous_Bean wrote:

Is this the one you're thinking of?

Helike

Start a Carnivorous Bean fan club. I'll join it. I do believe that's it.

Either the lake filled up or the town sank...What you should be worried about is that Atlantis is venice And it is still sinking.

[The Jade]

yellowdingo wrote:

The Jade wrote:

Carnivorous_Bean wrote:

Is this the one you're thinking of?

Helike

Start a Carnivorous Bean fan club. I'll join it. I do believe that's it.

Either the lake filled up or the town sank...What you should be worried about is that Atlantis is venice And it is still sinking.

Actually I think we should all be worried that Plato was an outright liar. Platonic friendship? Still waiting for that one to come true. ;)

[Carnivorous_Bean]

The Jade wrote:

Carnivorous_Bean wrote:

Is this the one you're thinking of?

Helike

Start a Carnivorous Bean fan club. I'll join it. I do believe that's it.

A Carnivorous Bean fan club? Truly, it is a sign of the End of Days. ;)

More seriously, the tale of Helike is pretty interesting. I wonder if that was the one you saw the program about. It sounds like a pretty good candidate.

[The Jade]

Carnivorous_Bean wrote:

The Jade wrote:

Carnivorous_Bean wrote:

Is this the one you're thinking of?

Helike

Start a Carnivorous Bean fan club. I'll join it. I do believe that's it.

A Carnivorous Bean fan club? Truly, it is a sign of the End of Days. ;)

More seriously, the tale of Helike is pretty interesting. I wonder if that was the one you saw the program about. It sounds like a pretty good candidate.

I think it's the very best candidate. But I also believe that Plato loved to make crap up. ;) Damn fantasy writers.

[Crimson Jester]

The Jade wrote:

Carnivorous_Bean wrote:

The Jade wrote:

Carnivorous_Bean wrote:

Is this the one you're thinking of?

Helike

Start a Carnivorous Bean fan club. I'll join it. I do believe that's it.

A Carnivorous Bean fan club? Truly, it is a sign of the End of Days. ;)

More seriously, the tale of Helike is pretty interesting. I wonder if that was the one you saw the program about. It sounds like a pretty good candidate.

I think it's the very best candidate. But I also believe that Plato loved to make crap up. ;) Damn fantasy writers.

Well he did say he heard it from someone who heard it from someone else. Plus he never finished the story. Which means he coudl have been researching it and found that it was total BS and just stopped writting.

[The Jade]

Crimson Jester wrote:

The Jade wrote:

Carnivorous_Bean wrote:

The Jade wrote:

Carnivorous_Bean wrote:

Is this the one you're thinking of?

Helike

Start a Carnivorous Bean fan club. I'll join it. I do believe that's it.

A Carnivorous Bean fan club? Truly, it is a sign of the End of Days. ;)

More seriously, the tale of Helike is pretty interesting. I wonder if that was the one you saw the program about. It sounds like a pretty good candidate.

I think it's the very best candidate. But I also believe that Plato loved to make crap up. ;) Damn fantasy writers.

Well he did say he heard it from someone who heard it from someone else. Plus he never finished the story. Which means he coudl have been researching it and found that it was total BS and just stopped writting.

Hard to disprove a BS story in the bronze age, but mebbe. ;)

[Patrick Curtin]

BUMP!