Mayans vs. Newton fight.


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Newton predicts the end of the world in 2060 but the Aztecs say 2012.

So who do you trust with the end of the world, an anti-social paranoid math genus whose mathematical principles created the foundation of our modern world, or a bunch of bloodthirsty tribal natives who never got around to creating the wheel but spent way too much time stargazing?

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Hmm Newton was a G~D fearing man.

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

I'll take the one where I'd have to be 92 to get to the end of the world.


I'm gonna have to go with Y2K... oh, wait, that already happened.
Or how about any of these others?

Liberty's Edge

I don't believe neither one them sunsubiches.

RPG Superstar 2012

Heathansson wrote:
I don't believe neither one them sunsubiches.

If it helps, they don't believe you either.

Liberty's Edge

Theyng kis mah ayuss.

Liberty's Edge

They're both wrong. Paizo's own Rone Barton would kick both their asses.

Liberty's Edge

Cool!

The Exchange

Good.


Whomever makes the correct prediction can have all my gaming loot after the end is completed.

It's the least I can do to help out fellow addicts.


Xabulba wrote:

Newton predicts the end of the world in 2060 but the Aztecs say 2012.

So who do you trust with the end of the world, an anti-social paranoid math genus whose mathematical principles created the foundation of our modern world, or a bunch of bloodthirsty tribal natives who never got around to creating the wheel but spent way too much time stargazing?

Neither, of course. This is apparently how Newton got his numbers:

Xabulba's source wrote:


In a letter dated 1704, Isaac Newton, the British physicist and astronomer interested in theology and alchemy, made a calculation based on the biblical Book of Daniel. According to Newton, 1260 years had to elapse between the re-establishment of the Holy Roman Empire by Charlemagne in 800 A.D. and the end of times.

I think that really says it all.

That Newton got physics right doesn't mean his every fit of superstition is equally correct. I could count the letters of the Declaration of Independence up and declare that's the number of years from the time it was written until the end of the world, but no person in their right mind has any reason to take that nonsense seriously. So also here.


The end of the world is tomorrow. Remember, you heard it here first, folks.


Bad timing. My woman's having surgery tomorrow and that cannot be interrupted. It has already been prepaid and frankly, I'm not ready to give up my stuff and join the Millerites at the top of the hill.


Your desire for it to not be true do not make it any less true.

Silver Crusade

CourtFool wrote:
Your desire for it to not be true do not make it any less true.

I'll bet you $20,000 that the world doesn't end tomorrow.

The Exchange

I think everyone is reading way to much into this all and we should all just relax.
DUCK SEASON


Anybody have a spare flex capacitor? I need to make a meteorlogical forecast. Roads optional.

The Exchange

wolframalpha.com just put in 88 mph.


Holy mathematerotica batman! My head imploded into a black hole.

The Exchange

Urizen wrote:
Holy mathematerotica batman! My head imploded into a black hole.

Huh what?!?!?

~looks around confused~


<mmmmmmppppmmMMPPPHmmmmm>

Spoiler:
hard to talk w/o a head


Celestial Healer wrote:
CourtFool wrote:
Your desire for it to not be true do not make it any less true.
I'll bet you $20,000 that the world doesn't end tomorrow.

It can't; it's already tomorrow in Australia and they seem fine. (very roughly paraphrased from Mr. Schultz).

OK, "fine" by Australian standards.


Celestial Healer wrote:
CourtFool wrote:
Your desire for it to not be true do not make it any less true.
I'll bet you $20,000 that the world doesn't end tomorrow.

But, tomorrow never comes...

You are trying to trick me!

Good thing I didn't fall for that.


Celestial Healer wrote:
CourtFool wrote:
Your desire for it to not be true do not make it any less true.
I'll bet you $20,000 that the world doesn't end tomorrow.

I'll hold. Let me see the color of your green, chappy.

Silver Crusade

Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
CourtFool wrote:
Your desire for it to not be true do not make it any less true.
I'll bet you $20,000 that the world doesn't end tomorrow.
I'll hold. Let me see the color of your green, chappy.

I'll put my car up as collateral. If the world ends, I won't need it anyway.


The Thing from Beyond the Edge wrote:
But, tomorrow never comes...

I am glad someone was paying attention.

Silver Crusade

CourtFool wrote:
The Thing from Beyond the Edge wrote:
But, tomorrow never comes...
I am glad someone was paying attention.

Fine. I'll bet you $20,000 that the world does not end on December 16, 2009. :)


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
They're both wrong. Paizo's own Rone Barton would kick both their asses.

I appreciate and commend your vote of confidence.

I'd get through Newton first, brilliant mathematician and astonishingly effective alchemist but I'd explain that his secret life's work, finding the philosopher's stone, makes him sad proof that no matter how big your brain is nor how many years you spend laser focusing on abstraction and deciphering to find something... if it just isn't there, it just isn't there. So he'll collapse in a quivering lump of weepiness. He may have died a virgin. But I just brought him back to life to mindf@#$ him.

I'll toss a tissue so he can clean himself up as I step over him and head to the Mayans.

Now the Mayans didn't say the world was going to end, but I've got other reasons to hit them, and I surely will. While their despicable cave worshipping clergy pillage their populace for seasonal sacrifice I'll shove my head up a peacock's rear and wear it as an Easter hat. Then I'll ninja sneak up behind the emperor high on his lofty throne (while he places bets on a really long game of proto-basketball going down below him) and I'll knock him out and replace him. From that esteemed height I'll explain to the congregated Mayans that sure, sometimes everyone's dying because of flooding rains or famine, and sure that one time 200 years ago when that happened we killed that lady and lo and behold sunshine and abundance... so the sacrifice seemed to work. But thing is people, we've been sacrificing for 2 centuries now and it's a hit or miss prospect at best. There's really no proof of correlation.

But what about the floods? Not a problem. I'd show them how to build umbrellas out of wood, vines and stitched bat wings.

But what about the famine? Not a problem. Someone has to find a new use for the deposed clergy, and I'll start a fast food Priesty's, the only place in the world you can enjoy free range holyman burgers with no additives or fillers.

And BTW, the world actually ends in 2010. As long as any ol' dummy can proclaim the coming end, what's stopping me from getting in on this attention seeking?

FEAR 2010! YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DIE AND IT WILL BE AN ORANGE JUICE RELATED DEATH! WHEREVER YOU ARE IN THE WORLD... DESERT OR OCEAN'S BOTTOM, ALL LIFE WILL END AND ORANGE JUICE PRODUCTION WAS TO BLAME! <--Hollywood would not buy the rights to this one. <sigh>

Sovereign Court

I'm afraid we'll all have to wait 5 Billion Years for the end of the world, when the Sun turns into a red giant and devours the Earth. So Newton and the Mayans were out by quite some distance..


Uzzy wrote:
I'm afraid we'll all have to wait 5 Billion Years for the end of the world, when the Sun turns into a red giant and devours the Earth. So Newton and the Mayans were out by quite some distance..

Lots of things could take us out before then, Uzzy. Emerging orange Juice technologies for instance. Namely the anti-crystalizing chemical they're working on now so oranges can survive deep freezes without protein disruption. Anti-crystal... antichrist. Is it starting to become clear now?

The Bible and the Eddas are saying the same thing in different ways. Who knew the sea of poison that spilt from Jormungandr's head would be pulpy and sweet?

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

Celestial Healer wrote:
CourtFool wrote:
The Thing from Beyond the Edge wrote:
But, tomorrow never comes...
I am glad someone was paying attention.
Fine. I'll bet you $20,000 that the world does not end on December 16, 2009. :)

Let's make it $100k. I've got the inside scoop from Thor, and he tells me that it's a sure bet.

Sovereign Court

The Jade wrote:
FEAR 2010! YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DIE AND IT WILL BE AN ORANGE JUICE RELATED DEATH! WHEREVER YOU ARE IN THE WORLD... DESERT OR OCEAN'S BOTTOM, ALL LIFE WILL END AND ORANGE JUICE PRODUCTION WAS TO BLAME! <--Hollywood would not buy the rights to this one. <sigh>

Shoot, my wife just bought two half gallons of OJ, I better drink them before the New Year. I don't suppose helping to save the world counts as a tax write-off, does it?


Callous Jack wrote:
The Jade wrote:
FEAR 2010! YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DIE AND IT WILL BE AN ORANGE JUICE RELATED DEATH! WHEREVER YOU ARE IN THE WORLD... DESERT OR OCEAN'S BOTTOM, ALL LIFE WILL END AND ORANGE JUICE PRODUCTION WAS TO BLAME! <--Hollywood would not buy the rights to this one. <sigh>
Shoot, my wife just bought two half gallons of OJ, I better drink them before the New Year. I don't suppose helping to save the world counts as a tax write-off, does it?

Well if you're trusting me with tax advice I'll have to say ABSOLUTELY! ;)


Sebastian wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
CourtFool wrote:
The Thing from Beyond the Edge wrote:
But, tomorrow never comes...
I am glad someone was paying attention.
Fine. I'll bet you $20,000 that the world does not end on December 16, 2009. :)
Let's make it $100k. I've got the inside scoop from Thor, and he tells me that it's a sure bet.

Right?! See, Sebastian knows. 2010. You heard it and had it proven conclusively right here, folks.


Urizen wrote:
Bad timing. My woman's having surgery tomorrow and that cannot be interrupted. It has already been prepaid and frankly, I'm not ready to give up my stuff and join the Millerites at the top of the hill.

See, it's when you say things like "Millerites"...

I sure love ol' Sir Isaac, but his writings on Daniel and Revelation are nutty as fruitcakes, and as stale as fruit cakes not made by Corsicana's own Collin Street Bakery, maker of the World-Famous DeLuxe Fruit Cake.

Sovereign Court

The Jade wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
The Jade wrote:
FEAR 2010! YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DIE AND IT WILL BE AN ORANGE JUICE RELATED DEATH! WHEREVER YOU ARE IN THE WORLD... DESERT OR OCEAN'S BOTTOM, ALL LIFE WILL END AND ORANGE JUICE PRODUCTION WAS TO BLAME! <--Hollywood would not buy the rights to this one. <sigh>
Shoot, my wife just bought two half gallons of OJ, I better drink them before the New Year. I don't suppose helping to save the world counts as a tax write-off, does it?
Well if you're trusting me with tax advice I'll have to say ABSOLUTELY! ;)

Save the cheerleader, hack Skynet, drink OJ... this world-saving business is easy and profitable.

The Exchange

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Bad timing. My woman's having surgery tomorrow and that cannot be interrupted. It has already been prepaid and frankly, I'm not ready to give up my stuff and join the Millerites at the top of the hill.

See, it's when you say things like "Millerites"...

I sure love ol' Sir Isaac, but his writings on Daniel and Revelation are nutty as fruitcakes, and as stale as fruit cakes not made by Corsicana's own Collin Street Bakery, maker of the World-Famous DeLuxe Fruit Cake.

I've actually had a few fruitcakes that were not nutty at all. Wish I could say the same for Sir Isaac.


Callous Jack wrote:
Save the cheerleader, hack Skynet, drink OJ... this world-saving business is easy and profitable.

Save? Blast. I thought you guys said, 'hump'.

Sovereign Court

CourtFool wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
Save the cheerleader, hack Skynet, drink OJ... this world-saving business is easy and profitable.
Save? Blast. I thought you guys said, 'hump'.

Is it Wednesday already?

The Exchange

CF is there anything you would not hump? Just curios.

Sovereign Court

Samnell wrote:
I could count the letters of the Declaration of Independence up and declare that's the number of years from the time it was written until the end of the world ...
COOL! So you're saying the world ends on July 4th, 9466, that's really a lot better than in the next couple of years. I gotta say you really put my mind at eas ...
Samnell wrote:
... but no person in their right mind has any reason to take that nonsense seriously. So also here.

Oh ... ah ... never mind then.

Sovereign Court

The Jade wrote:
Uzzy wrote:
I'm afraid we'll all have to wait 5 Billion Years for the end of the world, when the Sun turns into a red giant and devours the Earth. So Newton and the Mayans were out by quite some distance..

Lots of things could take us out before then, Uzzy. Emerging orange Juice technologies for instance. Namely the anti-crystalizing chemical they're working on now so oranges can survive deep freezes without protein disruption. Anti-crystal... antichrist. Is it starting to become clear now?

The Bible and the Eddas are saying the same thing in different ways. Who knew the sea of poison that spilt from Jormungandr's head would be pulpy and sweet?

Ah, we humans are not the world though. ;) Big difference between us being wiped out and the world ending.


Uzzy wrote:
The Jade wrote:
Uzzy wrote:
I'm afraid we'll all have to wait 5 Billion Years for the end of the world, when the Sun turns into a red giant and devours the Earth. So Newton and the Mayans were out by quite some distance..

Lots of things could take us out before then, Uzzy. Emerging orange Juice technologies for instance. Namely the anti-crystalizing chemical they're working on now so oranges can survive deep freezes without protein disruption. Anti-crystal... antichrist. Is it starting to become clear now?

The Bible and the Eddas are saying the same thing in different ways. Who knew the sea of poison that spilt from Jormungandr's head would be pulpy and sweet?

Ah, we humans are not the world though. ;) Big difference between us being wiped out and the world ending.

I meant world ending, not civilization ending. The anti-crystalizer will cause the earth's crust to become brittle and dissipate into the atmosphere. Lava-pulsing cracks will scream webwork across the globe's mantle, then the lava itself will become destablized on a molecular level. Earth becomes a gooey cosmic goulash of dust and brine for a moment and then a momentary cloud before the suns' heat casts all that is left us into oblivion! Nothing left but our core, an immense ball of superheated metal, itself appearing as an orange.

All of this because of a fat cat Florida Growers Association. The OJ murders were our portent! Death rode a pale horse and Orenthal James was driven away in a white bronco! Fools! We ignored all the signs!


The Jade wrote:
Uzzy wrote:
The Jade wrote:
Uzzy wrote:
I'm afraid we'll all have to wait 5 Billion Years for the end of the world, when the Sun turns into a red giant and devours the Earth. So Newton and the Mayans were out by quite some distance..

Lots of things could take us out before then, Uzzy. Emerging orange Juice technologies for instance. Namely the anti-crystalizing chemical they're working on now so oranges can survive deep freezes without protein disruption. Anti-crystal... antichrist. Is it starting to become clear now?

The Bible and the Eddas are saying the same thing in different ways. Who knew the sea of poison that spilt from Jormungandr's head would be pulpy and sweet?

Ah, we humans are not the world though. ;) Big difference between us being wiped out and the world ending.

I meant world ending, not civilization ending. The anti-crystalizer will cause the earth's crust to become brittle and dissipate into the atmosphere. Lava-pulsing cracks will scream webwork across the globe's mantle, then the lava itself will become destablized on a molecular level. Earth becomes a gooey cosmic goulash of dust and brine for a moment and then a momentary cloud before the suns' heat casts all that is left us into oblivion! Nothing left but our core, an immense ball of superheated metal, itself appearing as an orange.

All of this because of a fat cat Florida Growers Association. The OJ murders were our portent! Death rode a pale horse and Orenthal James was driven away in a white bronco! Fools! We ignored all the signs!

We hear and we will obey. Destroy the orange groves and save the world!

Sovereign Court

Mmm, oranges. I do like them, especially with chocolate.


Crimson Jester wrote:
CF is there anything you would not hump? Just curios.

{wanders in with mussed hair, lights cigarette} Hey, don't knock it till you've tried it.

{quickly hides Tang container from Rone's sharp eyes}


zylphryx wrote:


COOL! So you're saying the world ends on July 4th, 9466, that's really a lot better than in the next couple of years. I gotta say you really put my mind at eas ...

Aw crap. Now I have to shave t-

zylphryx wrote:


Oh ... ah ... never mind then.

Mission accomplished. :)


The world will end when one of our surgeon-priests' sacrificial victims manages to have her heart removed by the Devil before the procedure, thus destroying our civilization and angering the gods.

Or maybe that's a film project one of my college teachers was making...


The Thing from Beyond the Edge wrote:
We hear and we will obey. Destroy the orange groves and save the world!

Together we're going to do this thing! Fight the rind!

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