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Hello all,
Do you have to know the spell that you are mimicking when you cast these spells?
For example, suppose you cast Shadow Conjuration to mimic Web, but you don't have Web in your spellbook. Is that possible?
It seems intuitive that you would have to have knowledge of the spell that you are mimicking, but I don't see anything in these spell descriptions that makes this a requirement. Let me know what you think or if I am missing something.
Thanks.
Hello all,
Do you have to know the spell that you are mimicking when you cast these spells?
For example, suppose you cast Shadow Conjuration to mimic Web, but you don't have Web in your spellbook. Is that possible?
It seems intuitive that you would have to have knowledge of the spell that you are mimicking, but I don't see anything in these spell descriptions that makes this a requirement. Let me know what you think or if I am missing something.
Thanks.
A Shadowdancer can cast them with no spell knowledge at all, but it reasonable to think that they'd have to mimic a spell that they've seen. I'm sure someone has an answer to this, and now I'm curious too...
No
It doesn't read anywhere in the spell description that you need to know the spell you're making an _illusion_ from. That's kinda like the point for the whole spell. It would also screw the prc Shadowdancer able to cast those spells.
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It doesn't read anywhere in the spell description that you need to know the spell you're making an _illusion_ from. That's kinda like the point for the whole spell. It would also screw the prc Shadowdancer able to cast those spells.
If that's the case, then it seems like a nice spell for a Sorcerer. Kind of a quasi-expansion of his spell list.
If they could mimic the spells up to their full effect, only then it would be necessary to rule that you need to know the spell you're mimicking.
But now there's disbelief (will save) in addition to any other save the spell might require, so it's really no trouble.
Shadow conjuration is very handy in wand form, as well, as generally, objects don't get the opportunity to try to disbelieve that shadow-conjuration unseen servant is closing it.
I'd rule that you don't have to know the spell and can use any spell from the core rulebook, but not from the splat books like spell compendium.
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These spells were the specific reason that my 3.5 Illusionist took Evocation and Conjuration as his prohibited schools. Of course, it took a little imagination to be useful in combat when those spells weren't available, but it was sure a heck of a lot of fun to play. Having +5 DC total (Gnome, Spell Focus, Greater Spell Focus, Master Specialist class feature) to the disbelief saves helped as well. :)