Doctor Who: The Waters of Mars


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Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

The next 60-minute Doctor Who special, The Waters of Mars, will air in the UK on Sunday, November 15 at 7pm on BBC One. In Australia, it's set for the week of December 6 on ABC. In the US, it will air Saturday, December 19 at 9:00pm ET/PT on BBC America/BBC America HD.

The 60-minute special The End of Time and it's as-yet unnamed 75-minute final chapter don't yet have confirmed airdates, though it's pretty obvious that at least one of them—probably the first one—will air on Christmas Day in the UK; my bet would be either Boxing Day or New Year's Day for the second part.

All three of these specials will be released on DVD and Blu-Ray in the US on February 2. A box set of all five specials (adding The Next Doctor and Planet of the Dead, both of which are already available) will also be released the same day. (In the UK, that date is January 11.)

It thus seems pretty clear that the US air dates for The End of Time et seq. will be sometime between December 25 and February 2.

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I know! I can hardly wait to see it on November 16th!


Whoot! Whoot!


News you might be interested in:"Doctor Who" star lands NBC legal pilot

BTW, it appears that there will be new versions/remakes- not sure exactly- of Blake's 7, Upstairs, Downstairs, plus a few other 70's shows. (This was mentioned on a radio programme last week; can't remember which.)

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ericthecleric wrote:

News you might be interested in:"Doctor Who" star lands NBC legal pilot

BTW, it appears that there will be new versions/remakes- not sure exactly- of Blake's 7, Upstairs, Downstairs, plus a few other 70's shows. (This was mentioned on a radio programme last week; can't remember which.)

Hi guys...been a bit busy working on Friars Almanac.

I believe you are looking for Blake 7 (via blake7.com) as they are looking at an animated series and a remake...


ericthecleric wrote:

News you might be interested in:"Doctor Who" star lands NBC legal pilot

He's playing an American? Dear God, I hope his American accent is better than the Elvis impersonation he tried to do in The Idiot's Lantern.


Watch classicepisodes of Doctor Who, Day of the Triffids, Neverwhere, and The Quatermass Experiment here.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Vic Wertz wrote:
...The 60-minute special The End of Time and it's as-yet unnamed 75-minute final chapter...

Correction: Apparently the *second* part is called "The End of Time," while the name of the *first* part remains unannounced.

Also, the BBC has announced broadcast details for the new six-part animated story, Dreamland; new episodes run each day from November 21 to 26. (I don't comprehend all your "Red Button" and "Freeview" stuff, so I'll just link to the news release.) It'll also be available on bbc.co.uk, but I'm guessing it won't be viewable outside the UK.

I'm sure it'll show up in the US on DVD in a couple of years or something.


David Tennant also made a guest appearance as the Doctor in The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith - episodes 5 & 6 of series 3 of The Sarah Jane Adventures.


I've just seen a trailer for Waters of Mars. It's set in 2059, at Bowie Base One. :-)


ericthecleric wrote:
I've just seen a trailer for Waters of Mars. It's set in 2059, at Bowie Base One. :-)

I forgot to add: It's showing at 7 pm on Sunday.

Dark Archive

ericthecleric wrote:
ericthecleric wrote:
I've just seen a trailer for Waters of Mars. It's set in 2059, at Bowie Base One. :-)
I forgot to add: It's showing at 7 pm on Sunday.

Is that in the US too??

he says, on his knees, praying

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Mac Boyce wrote:
ericthecleric wrote:
ericthecleric wrote:
I've just seen a trailer for Waters of Mars. It's set in 2059, at Bowie Base One. :-)
I forgot to add: It's showing at 7 pm on Sunday.

Is that in the US too??

he says, on his knees, praying

No...

AUSTRALIA DEC 6th
USA DEC 19th


Are the BBC going to put all the last movies and specials of Tennant's into a box set?
I saw the "the Next Doctor" and "Waters of life" sold separatly and I wanted to get them but held off just in case they are going to put out a box set.

Dark Archive

Vic Wertz wrote:

The next 60-minute Doctor Who special, The Waters of Mars, will air in the UK on Sunday, November 15 at 7pm on BBC One. In Australia, it's set for the week of December 6 on ABC. In the US, it will air Saturday, December 19 at 9:00pm ET/PT on BBC America/BBC America HD.

The 60-minute special The End of Time and it's as-yet unnamed 75-minute final chapter don't yet have confirmed airdates, though it's pretty obvious that at least one of them—probably the first one—will air on Christmas Day in the UK; my bet would be either Boxing Day or New Year's Day for the second part.

All three of these specials will be released on DVD and Blu-Ray in the US on February 2. A box set of all five specials (adding The Next Doctor and Planet of the Dead, both of which are already available) will also be released the same day. (In the UK, that date is January 11.)

It thus seems pretty clear that the US air dates for The End of Time et seq. will be sometime between December 25 and February 2.

Mac Boyce wrote:

Is that in the US too??

Xabulba wrote:

Are the BBC going to put all the last movies and specials of Tennant's into a box set?

I saw the "the Next Doctor" and "Waters of life" sold separatly and I wanted to get them but held off just in case they are going to put out a box set.

Where on earth did the ability to read the first post! go?

Half saw the trailer, looks good, but who's the woman?

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32

Damn, still another 3 and a half weeks. :(
Although this time it appears we get it before you guys in the US. :D


Nevynxxx wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:

The next 60-minute Doctor Who special, The Waters of Mars, will air in the UK on Sunday, November 15 at 7pm on BBC One. In Australia, it's set for the week of December 6 on ABC. In the US, it will air Saturday, December 19 at 9:00pm ET/PT on BBC America/BBC America HD.

The 60-minute special The End of Time and it's as-yet unnamed 75-minute final chapter don't yet have confirmed airdates, though it's pretty obvious that at least one of them—probably the first one—will air on Christmas Day in the UK; my bet would be either Boxing Day or New Year's Day for the second part.

All three of these specials will be released on DVD and Blu-Ray in the US on February 2. A box set of all five specials (adding The Next Doctor and Planet of the Dead, both of which are already available) will also be released the same day. (In the UK, that date is January 11.)

It thus seems pretty clear that the US air dates for The End of Time et seq. will be sometime between December 25 and February 2.

Mac Boyce wrote:

Is that in the US too??

Xabulba wrote:

Are the BBC going to put all the last movies and specials of Tennant's into a box set?

I saw the "the Next Doctor" and "Waters of life" sold separatly and I wanted to get them but held off just in case they are going to put out a box set.

Where on earth did the ability to read the first post! go?

Half saw the trailer, looks good, but who's the woman?

D'oh!

Liberty's Edge

Full of awesome!

Spoiler:

I think the Doctor has always been a chaotic good character, but tonight he sways closer to a darker spectrum at the very end. Adelaide's suicide pulls him back, but... interesting that he shows traits associated with the Master, and that's our next Christmas special.

It might actually have been quite interesting to see what storyline could evolve from the Doctor gone rogue; Time Lord Victorious carried to a logical conclusion. But vilifying Doctor Who is the last thing we need--it wasn't all that great when Luke went Dark Side in the Dark Horse books; I don't think we'd enjoy an evil Doctor, no matter how cool it sounds initially.

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Andrew Turner wrote:

Full of awesome!

** spoiler omitted **

Sounds like a throwback to Sylvester McCoy's Doctor. He was doing some morally questionable stuff and some pretty nasty stuff. Breaking Ace's faith, manipulating people mentally in Battlefield, Survival, etc.


I enjoyed it too.

Spoiler:
I'm guessing that the next two episodes are about him having to deal with the consequences of his breaking the Laws of Time... perhaps involving the granddaughter of the Base Captain. It'll be interesting to see.

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More international air dates:

Canada: SPACE, Saturday 19th December whenat 9pm ET
New Zealand: Prime, Sunday 29th November at 7.30pm


Another (spoilered) thought I meant to add:

Spoiler:
Who'd have thought that water would be so scary? What a brilliant concept for a "bad guy". It'd be cool to see a storyline of what happened to make the ice frozen.

Liberty's Edge

ericthecleric wrote:

Another (spoilered) thought I meant to add:

** spoiler omitted **

You know, the Doctor said

Spoiler:
he wondered the same thing. He guessed that the ancient Martians had deliberately frozen the lifeform. Remember when he spoke Old North Martian and she seemed to recognize the language? And you're right, I got a little of the pathos bug when the water breeched Steffi's cubicle and then she starts watching the last transmission from her kids--pretty good stuff.

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Andrew Turner wrote:

You know, the Doctor said

** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:
Not just ancient Martians, but specifically Ice Warriors!

Personally, I thought the mouths of the infected ones looked a bit like the mouths of the "Ice Lord" type of Ice Warrior. Kinda. Vaguely.

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just fininshed watching it last night.

I had chills down my spine when the cloister bell went off. *shudder*

Dark Archive

Seen two trailers for the Christmas special now....Ohhh that baby's gunna be *good*.

Also you may like this. although it contains borderline spoilers, so be warned. I wasn't.

Spoiler:
So far we know the master comes back, and he looks *very* cool, all white hair and madness, and thanks to the article above, that he kills this incarnation.

Also some ood are whittering about the "end of time itself" chew on that....

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Man that was an impressive special.

Spoiler:
I liked th idea of there being events that are fixed and the Doctor can't change them. Capt. Brooke's death sees to be one of them, even if the events surrounding it changed. I also had wished that we had seen what was frozen in the ice. I assume that it was a creature similar to The Beast or Abbadon. The presence of the Ood in London at the end was creepy, since they haven't been discovered in 2059. Also love th fact that the Master is returning.

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Nevynxxx wrote:

Seen two trailers for the Christmas special now....Ohhh that baby's gunna be *good*.

Also you may like this. although it contains borderline spoilers, so be warned. I wasn't.

** spoiler omitted **

Thanks, that was a very illuminating article.

Call me a fossil though, but Who will always be Tom Baker for me.


David Fryer wrote:

Man that was an impressive special.

** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:
Exactly. This is a MUCH more satisfying answer to Donna's question in "The Fires of Pompeii" than the Doctor's "I'm a Time Lord. I won't. Deal." It's not that it's a legalistic thing, it shows that no matter WHAT he does, time will find a way to restore the proper order of things on those "fixed points." Also, it took away the objection that I had with "TFoP", which was that Pompeii was a "fixed point" only because the writers didn't want to deal with the historical changes they'd have to account for of the Doctor saving the populace of the city. Here, they show crystal clear the enormity of the Doctor's actions. I saw the last five minutes of the special as him being pretty brutally smacked down for his hubris and presumption.

The Doctor failed to understand that the reason

Spoiler:
that Captain Adelaide Brooks killed herself, is the same reason she activated Protocol 5 and blew up the Mars base - to save humanity. She died originally to keep the threat from Mars from reaching Earth. That legacy inspired her descendants to thrust humanity into space and blaze the frontiers of the future. When the Doctor prevented her from dying on Mars, she killed herself, not out of despair that something like him existed, not even because Time demanded it. She killed herself because she believed that a dead hero's legacy was necessary to push humanity in the right direction, rather than a well known but living and fallible relative. She would not live as a fraud, and so she took the choice that she believed represented her responsibility to the human race: die, so that her descendants would lead the way out to the stars.

The other survivors? Relatively unimportant - a doctor and a systems technician, they'd tell the tale of what happened more or less, and perhaps slightly change the historical perspective, but the legend would be intact, and that's what would matter.

The Doctor didn't understand her motivation and the strength of her resolve, and paid the price for it.

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Lyingbastard wrote:

The Doctor failed to understand that the reason ** spoiler omitted **

The other survivors? Relatively unimportant - a doctor and a systems technician, they'd tell the tale of what happened more or less, and perhaps slightly change the historical perspective, but the legend would be intact, and that's what would matter.

The Doctor didn't understand her motivation and the strength of her resolve, and paid the price for it.

I think that take makes the most sense.

More importantly, the (really cute) reletively unimportant duo would have just said "The Doctor saved us." That wouldn't impact history, since the Doctor is known of even in the 21st century.


I found this while I was being bored and decided to share!

It's called Extended Regenerations and it covers Doctor's 1-9.

There is 3 parts so make sure you watch them all!

Dark Archive

One thing that doesn't make sense to me in retrospect. The Dalek's plan involved destroying the planets they had abducted. Yet the Doctor says that they did not kill Adalaide because she was a fixed point in time and her death would have destroyed the time line. So were they planning on abducting her and placing her somewhere else so that the timeline could proceed normally?

Liberty's Edge

David Fryer wrote:
One thing that doesn't make sense to me in retrospect. The Dalek's plan involved destroying the planets they had abducted. Yet the Doctor says that they did not kill Adalaide because she was a fixed point in time and her death would have destroyed the time line. So were they planning on abducting her and placing her somewhere else so that the timeline could proceed normally?

Its like going to the produce section set on buying some vegetables, seeing some bizarre squash on the shelf, and realizing you don't know exactly what kind of squash it is or what to do with it, so you just pass it over for something you know how to cook. If you got home and had a chance to look in a cookbook and figure out what it was and what to do, you might go back and get it, but if your history was altered before you had a chance to get back to the grocery store, the squash is safe from your consumption :)

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