I have a belt of dexterity+6(36000), two +3 weapons(rapier +2 +keen or frost))(short sword+2 frost)(36000), Bracers of armor +5(25000), ring of chamaleon(12700), amulet of natural armor +2(8000), boots of speed(12000), bag of holdingIII(7400) and a ring of sustenance(2500).
How would you do it?
Is this only Pathfinder equipment? Or does official 3.x equipment count? How about unofficial ones?
I think it will be only pathfinder equipment, did not asked my GM about that.But maybe he would let some 3.5 equipment that is not so overpowered, lets give it a try.
One more question (I'm working on some stuff for you)....
What are your feats?
Edit: Stats would help too...
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For your weapons, I wouldn't worry about keen, since critting isn't that big of a deal for a rogue. Instead, get speed so you get an extra attack to get your sneak attack in with. You should be able to afford this if you make your primary weapon +1 speed and your secondary weapon simply +1 if you have to.
For your weapons, I wouldn't worry about keen, since critting isn't that big of a deal for a rogue. Instead, get speed so you get an extra attack to get your sneak attack in with. You should be able to afford this if you make your primary weapon +1 speed and your secondary weapon simply +1 if you have to.
I think that is what those boots of speed are for.
Ok, it has taken me a bit....but here goes (total review actually):
Let’s first take a look at your feats…(I know that isn’t what you asked about, but I’ve got to comment):
Combat Expertise (used just to get to Improved Feint)
Improved Feint (bluff as move action)
Greater Feint (dex loss when bluffing lasts all round)
2WF
Imp 2WF
Weapon Finesse
Quick Draw
Surprise Attack
Fast Stealth
I’m not sure why you are going some of this route. Is it just to maximize all your sneak attack damage? Are you then ignoring your Death Attack? I mean, right now, you have hide in plain sight from Assassin 8, and you get sneak attack damage whenever you flank someone, so why do you need all the improved feint and greater feint stuff? Do you plan on tanking?
On top of that, why all the two weapon fighting? Again, to maximize your sneak attack damage? That’s fine if that is the case.
Why quick draw? You can pull your weapons as part of your movement action, effectively for free.
Finally, Surprise Attack seems to be very limited in use. How many surprise rounds do you normally get in your campaigns, as we tend to not get that many.
Now, keeping your 2wf route, that gives you 5 possible feats (using surprise attack to get a feat).
I’m going to assume your DM isn’t going to allow feats outside of Pathfinder, so we’ll stick to these:
1: Two Weapon Fighting
2 Rogue Talent: Fast Stealth
3: Improved Init
4: Rogue Talent: Weapon Finesse
5: Skill Focus (Stealth)
7: Weapon Focus
9: Improved Two Weapon Fighting
11: Improved Critical (Rapier)
13: OPEN (do what you want)
Since a rapier is far superior to short sword, I’m not sure why you aren’t just using that (and now you get to use improved crit on them)
First off, I would see if he would let you buy a Sword of Life Stealing as a rapier instead of a longsword (you should be able to get it “made”, it’s effectively the exact same weapon, most DMs should be fine with that). This gives your opponent neg levels when you crit, which is now 15-20 crit range. (25k each)
Or perhaps…
Sword of Subtlety changed over to a rapier (+4 hit and damage when sneak attacking) (22k each)
If all else fails, you can simply go with
Rapier +2 Shock and either Spellstoring (scrolls!) or +3…I would consider like shock on one frost on the other (32k each)
So, have have either 130k, 136k, or 116k left
Belt of Dex +6 (36k) - good stuff for you (94k, 100k, 80k)
Ring of Chameleon (12.7k) - good stuff for you (81.3k, 87.3k, 67.3k)
Books of Speed (12k) – decent, boots are always difficult (69.3, 75.3, 55.3)
Handy Haversack (you get 120lbs of storage for only 2k, how much do you intend to actually have to carry, cause right now, you have very little) (67.3, 73.3, 53.3)
Bracers of Armor +5 (25k) (42.3, 48.3, 28.3)
Figurine of Wonderous Power, Onyx Dog (15.5k), scent, darkvision, see invis! (26.8, 32.8, 12.8)
With maxed out UMD, you should have a 17 in it (13 from levels, +3 class skill, +1 cha)
Scrolls
See Invisibility (2nd arcane) x 2 (150 each, 300 total)
Grease (1st arcane) x4 (25 each, 100 total)
Disguise Self (1st arcane) x4 (25 each, 100 total)
Spider Climb (2nd arcane) x2 (150 each, 300 total)
Fly (3rd arcane) x2 (375 each, 750 total)
Restoration, Lesser (2nd divine) x2 (150 each, 300 total)
1850 total (24.95k, 30.95k, 10.95k)
Wands
True Strike (1st arcane) (750)
Cure Moderate Wounds (2nd divine) (4500)
5250 total (19.7k, 25.7k, 5.7k)
And, if you can convince your DM to allow it
Ring of Use Magic Device (+5 comp bonus to Use Magic Device, same cost as ring of climbing) (2.5k)
Well, that's my advice to you.
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For your weapons, I wouldn't worry about keen, since critting isn't that big of a deal for a rogue. Instead, get speed so you get an extra attack to get your sneak attack in with. You should be able to afford this if you make your primary weapon +1 speed and your secondary weapon simply +1 if you have to.I think that is what those boots of speed are for.
I'm not a big fan of the boots of speed though, especially at high levels since they only provide 10 rounds per day of speed. The speed weapon enhancement will give you the extra attack every round you have a full attack.
Yes, i was trying to maximize my Sneak attack in every way that i could. I will be using death attack a lot, but in case that fails i want to be able to handle myself. That explain the feint. The surprise attack, well, now i think that a improved iniciative is trully better.
As a assassin, i imagined myself wearing a lot(10 total, 2 hidden) of daggers, and liked the idea of beein able to suddenly draw and throw a couple of then(at my full normal rate of attack). Dont know if im gonna keep it.
But, can i use two rapiers, with no penalties? A rapier is considered a light weapon?
Ah, the bag of holding is also for put some bodies in it when necessary. Dont know if it will be, i just imagined this as something useful.
If you are going to try and use death attack as much as possible, my suggestion would be to study for your 3 rounds while hiding in plain sight, then go in for the sneak attack/death attack round. If they live, then simply back away, hide in plain sight, then come back in (or if they are already flanked, just keep sneak attacking them).
I know for theme sake, that throwing a weapon is cool for the assassin, but the death attack only works with MELEE weapons, so throwing the dagger won't help. Here:
Death Attack (Ex): If an assassin studies his victim for 3 rounds and then makes a sneak attack with a melee weapon that successfully deals damage, the sneak attack has the additional effect of possibly either paralyzing or killing the target (assassin’s choice).
Hmm, apparently, I was wrong about the rapiers. I thought it was considered a light weapon, or that you could use any weapon you use Weapon Finesse for to be considered light for 2wf. Ok, you may want to ignore that part then. Go ahead back to shortsword/rapier. I didn't check the rules close enough.
As far as the bag of holding....well, i suppose that is a use for it, but if that is the case, take a portable hole, for 20k. You can fit a plethora of bodies in there!
Ok, you've lost 40k on your costs....If you get the #2 option for your weapons (again, I don't see why a DM wouldn't allow it), then you can just drop the figurine of wonderous power, and you have your 40k.
If you can get only option #1, then drop the figuring and make the offhand weapon a +2 with element, that saves you another 14k, leaving you like 8k
Finally, if you can only go with option 3 for the weapons, then drop off hand down to +1 shock/spell storing, and you save 26k. Then Drop the primary to +2 shock/spell storing, saving you 14k more, giving you an even 40k saved.
It is only 140,000 for level 13, f*.
Well, just gonna have to cut some stuff, thats ok...
So, what did you decide? Inquiring minds what to know!!
How would you do it?
Ale and leisure.
How many surprise rounds do you normally get in your campaigns, as we tend to not get that many.
FWIW: I honestly didn't realize how often surprise rounds come up in my games, until one of the players decided to be a Diviner.