I love the new figures for this Pathfinder line....fantastic.I DO WISH that they would do a Harsk dwarf as pictured, the new sculpt is nice but not the best for my RPG play since he is in constant attack mode. The illustrations on the game books are soooo great why not stick with them for the most part, and they are good tie in to the game itself??? Just my opinion but I buy alot of figures and I will be buying alot of these in the future.
Oh just for the record, I have already received or ordered over 50 of the new Pathfinder figures and would buy at least 10 of the Harsk Dwarf if made with the crossbow as depicted. I also own over 3000 Reaper figures, maybe more so I hope Paizo and Reaper at least consider some of my opinions on what I want.
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They kinda already did. This guy looks a heck of a lot like Harsk. My wife painted one up for our legacy of fire game (one of the players is a dwarf cleric using Harsk's image for his character) and it really is a close match. Strap an axe on his back and you're done.
Thanks, YES, I agree and I do like that figure....My trouble is I like the sculpting of this new Pathfinder line and I also like the slotta base design. I guess I am just fussy, but thanks for pointing out this figure for me.
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What Reaper/Paizo need to do is make sculpts of minis that aren't easily available (rare or requiring much conversion work) elsewhere. Lamia matriarchs, lamia harridans, rune giant (ouch!), skinsaw cultists, degenerate ogres/ogrekin, grey maidens, plague doctors, important NPCs from their adventures/APs, etc etc. Most monsters can be found from a dozen companies, but to make the most of this partnership, they need to present minis you want for Pathfinder (otherwise, you ain't really the target audience) that you just can't get elsewhere.
Trust me, this will happen down the road. Reaper just needs some time to get geared up, and rereleasing the Crocodile minis to get them back in stock while finishing off the iconics is just the start of things. We have given them a large Paizo wishlist and most if not all of the ones you listed above are on the list. I am very jazzed!
-Lisa
Ah, but you overestimate my turnaround time on painting these things! I've just started Burnt Offerings, so if I don't get some minis soon, I won't have my usual 2-3 year window of opportunity to get some painted!
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I DO WISH that they would do a Harsk dwarf as pictured, the new sculpt is nice but not the best for my RPG play since he is in constant attack mode. The illustrations on the game books are soooo great why not stick with them for the most part, and they are good tie in to the game itself???
Harsk was actually one of the unreleased sculpts that Reaper inherited from Crocodile Games. From what I've seen, Reaper's own designs are generally staying more true to the original art.
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I know this has come up before, but ...
Are there any plans to do plastic prepainted minis with Reaper at some point? I know they are more costly up front and all that and it simply may not be in the cards but I still wanted to ask :)
Currently, their plans are for unpainted metal only. If they ever get to a point where they feel they can put prepainted plastics on the table, we're pretty darn likely to let them!
Currently, their plans are for unpainted metal only. If they ever get to a point where they feel they can put prepainted plastics on the table, we're pretty darn likely to let them!I know this has come up before, but ...
Are there any plans to do plastic prepainted minis with Reaper at some point? I know they are more costly up front and all that and it simply may not be in the cards but I still wanted to ask :)
There's an interesting thread about this over at Reaper:
http://www.reapermini.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=38327
Notable is Gus Landt of Reaper's note:
It is an awesome dragon! Unfortunately, you won't see that dragon in LE because we don't own it. Paizo retains all rights and ownership of the Pathfinder minis, so we couldn't put them in another line, nor can we make Warlord datacards for them.
The "LE" referred to is "Legendary Encounters," Reaper's line of plastic, pre-painted minis.
So it looks like either Paizo would have to give Reaper the rights to put Pathfinder models into LE, or they would somehow have to put Pathfinder plastics under the same Pathfinder Model line that they already have for the whitemetal minis, without being confusing. Or license a new, just-plastic Pathfinder line.
I could be misremembering, but I think Reaper also has a sub-company handling the production of all their plastic minis, which could complicate things, but hopefully not.
But anyway, from the way I'm reading what Reaper says, Paizo would have to ask/ok them to make the plastics. From what James Jacobs says, it sounds like they would wait to hear from Reaper to see if they wanted to do Pathfinder plastics. So the first item of business would be to clear up who is supposed to initiate the dialog.
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Notable is Gus Landt of Reaper's note:
It is an awesome dragon! Unfortunately, you won't see that dragon in LE because we don't own it. Paizo retains all rights and ownership of the Pathfinder minis, so we couldn't put them in another line, nor can we make Warlord datacards for them.The "LE" referred to is "Legendary Encounters," Reaper's line of plastic, pre-painted minis.
So it looks like either Paizo would have to give Reaper the rights to put Pathfinder models into LE, or they would somehow have to put Pathfinder plastics under the same Pathfinder Model line that they already have for the whitemetal minis, without being confusing. Or license a new, just-plastic Pathfinder line.
I could be misremembering, but I think Reaper also has a sub-company handling the production of all their plastic minis, which could complicate things, but hopefully not.
But anyway, from the way I'm reading what Reaper says, Paizo would have to ask/ok them to make the plastics. From what James Jacobs says, it sounds like they would wait to hear from Reaper to see if they wanted to do Pathfinder plastics. So the first item of business would be to clear up who is supposed to initiate the dialog.
There is another quote from Gus in that same post that I think is pertinent:
The other problem with doing a large piece like this in prepainted plastic is that it would literally cost us as much as doing 5-6 normal size minis. That means we would have to sell 5-6 times as many of him as we did of our small stuff, which just ain't gonna happen...
There are whole different economics for prepainted plastic minis. If there wasn't, Paizo would already be making these ourselves. Reaper has been using minis for its LE line that have already been thoroughly recouped in terms of investment, and it is still really expensive for them without all of the art and sculpting costs. Trust me, if there is a way to do prepainted plastic Pathfinder minis, we will find it. It may end up being through Reaper, who knows? But we are looking, just not finding.
-Lisa
Notable is Gus Landt of Reaper's note:
It is an awesome dragon! Unfortunately, you won't see that dragon in LE because we don't own it. Paizo retains all rights and ownership of the Pathfinder minis, so we couldn't put them in another line, nor can we make Warlord datacards for them.The "LE" referred to is "Legendary Encounters," Reaper's line of plastic, pre-painted minis.
So it looks like either Paizo would have to give Reaper the rights to put Pathfinder models into LE, or they would somehow have to put Pathfinder plastics under the same Pathfinder Model line that they already have for the whitemetal minis, without being confusing. Or license a new, just-plastic Pathfinder line.
I could be misremembering, but I think Reaper also has a sub-company handling the production of all their plastic minis, which could complicate things, but hopefully not.
But anyway, from the way I'm reading what Reaper says, Paizo would have to ask/ok them to make the plastics. From what James Jacobs says, it sounds like they would wait to hear from Reaper to see if they wanted to do Pathfinder plastics. So the first item of business would be to clear up who is supposed to initiate the dialog.
There is another quote from Gus in that same post that I think is pertinent:
The other problem with doing a large piece like this in prepainted plastic is that it would literally cost us as much as doing 5-6 normal size minis. That means we would have to sell 5-6 times as many of him as we did of our small stuff, which just ain't gonna happen...There are whole different economics for prepainted plastic minis. If there wasn't, Paizo would already be making these ourselves. Reaper has been using minis for its LE line that have already been thoroughly recouped in terms of investment, and it is still really expensive for them without all of the art and sculpting costs. Trust me, if there is a way to do prepainted plastic Pathfinder minis, we will find it....
Thanks for the response. I understand. I snipped that quote out because it was specifically about making a plastic version of the Pathfinder Red Dragon--he was saying that IT was too big to be economical, and I didn't want to muddle that up with the rest of the conversation. I am not clear on the economics of the normal size miniatures, but I'm sure it's still complicated and costly (just not as much as the dragon).
(Personally, for the record, I prefer metal miniatures anyway--they're way sturdier, and look much nicer hand-painted than the pre-produced stuff. Heck, I even prefer naked white metal to what some pre-painted minis look like.)
Just noting that there seems to be interest in Pathfinder plastics all around. I guess the question indeed is if you can sell them.
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Just announced for March:
Karzoug, Runelord of Greed and Justice Ironbriar were both originally produced by Crocodile Games; we still have stock of each, now available at a lower price.
Troll and Order of the Scourge Hellknight are both brand-new Reaper products. (Sorry—no images yet!)
How about a listing of "What's to come", for the next few months. Originally, I thought that Reaper was going to release 4 figures per month? I see a couple for Jan and Feb and so on but isn't there going to be more per month?
Thanks, just eager
Any word on how much the dragon's going to run? I'd just like to get an idea, if there is one, as it's possibly the first pewter dragon I'd ever actually pay the cash for.
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How about a listing of "What's to come", for the next few months. Originally, I thought that Reaper was going to release 4 figures per month? I see a couple for Jan and Feb and so on but isn't there going to be more per month?
Thanks, just eager
I've been posting announced products in this thread; you can also subscribe to the RSS feed of the product area here (but my posts are more informative, because I've mentioned which ones are new and which ones are reissues of the Crocodile line.) They've only formally announced releases through March.
They are releasing four each month (except for the first month, which had eight), but that count includes Crocodile reissues—half of the releases each month have been new, and half have been reissues.
Any word on how much the dragon's going to run? I'd just like to get an idea, if there is one, as it's possibly the first pewter dragon I'd ever actually pay the cash for.
One of the Reaper guys was asked the same question on their boards. His response:
I can't quote a price until it is put on mold and turned into metal, but I should guess it will be between $25.00 and $30.00 based on size.
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Any word on how much the dragon's going to run? I'd just like to get an idea, if there is one, as it's possibly the first pewter dragon I'd ever actually pay the cash for.One of the Reaper guys was asked the same question on their boards. His response:
I can't quote a price until it is put on mold and turned into metal, but I should guess it will be between $25.00 and $30.00 based on size.
If this turns out to be accurate, that's not bad at all.
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I was just looking at the Christmas card on the blog and my initial reaction was...that would make a cool figure. Any chance of getting Christmas themed figures???
Reaper does annual holiday minis featuring their own mascot, Sophie... if they thought that a holiday Seoni mini would be a good idea, I don't think they'd have to twist our arms very hard for approval.
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Reaper does annual holiday minis featuring their own mascot, Sophie... if they thought that a holiday Seoni mini would be a good idea, I don't think they'd have to twist our arms very hard for approval.
What about an uncensored Seoni like the Sophie, Ellen Stone, Cowgirl, and Queen of the Jungle models in their Urban Legends line?
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Reaper does annual holiday minis featuring their own mascot, Sophie... if they thought that a holiday Seoni mini would be a good idea, I don't think they'd have to twist our arms very hard for approval.What about an uncensored Seoni like the Sophie, Ellen Stone, Cowgirl, and Queen of the Jungle models in their Urban Legends line?
Now that... that's not for us. Sorry, folks.
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Now that... that's not for us. Sorry, folks.Reaper does annual holiday minis featuring their own mascot, Sophie... if they thought that a holiday Seoni mini would be a good idea, I don't think they'd have to twist our arms very hard for approval.What about an uncensored Seoni like the Sophie, Ellen Stone, Cowgirl, and Queen of the Jungle models in their Urban Legends line?
Awww... :(
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What about an uncensored Seoni like the SophieNow that... that's not for us. Sorry, folks.
This is a family place, and being in the UK, no one bats an eyelid, the link I left in above about matches most of the statues (well, with added wings).
The one that got me though, is quite high up, and a little out of sight, and that had a naked bum. I found that one quite scandalous (and attractive) and pointed out to the Mrs, odd that all the boobs cause no reaction, but a naked bum did.
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Also, I posted this to the wrong thread last week:
Reaper has updated us a bit, and they've also posted some info about upcoming figures on their own boards. Here's what you might want to know:
It turns out they're not actually doing monthly waves of four minis—they're actually doing biweekly waves of two minis. They're also a bit behind (on all of their lines) from the holidays, but they're catching back up quickly. The new Seoni just arrived, along with their reissue of the Crocodile Xanesha. The new Lem and their reissue of Nualia & Erylium should be along in a week or two, followed in the coming weeks by the new Kyra and Sajan, and the reissued Merisiel and Goblin Commando on Goblin Dog. (I'm not completely sure which of those are the first pair and which are the second, but one pair should be arriving at the turn of the month, and the other in mid-February.)
Also, they've let folks know that the troll due in March is coming from the cover of the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary; the Dragon from the cover of the Core Rulebok will be out in April; and they're also working on the Carrion King, a couple other NPCs from the Council of Thieves Adventure Path, and some pugwampis. And, of course, continuing to rerelease the remaining Crocodile minis.
And in August, they plan to release six minis to coincide with the Pathfinder RPG Advanced Player's Guide release. (Hmm—I wonder what those could be?)
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I don't know what other people are seeing, but I called our Alliance rep this week to order some of the earlier reaper and reissued crocodile pathfinder minis.
to my surprise all 3 that I wanted are sold out from the north-east warehouse!
I've heard from Reaper that the minis are selling well, so I am not too surprised. They are getting caught up from the holiday break, so it sounds like they might be a bit behind on getting restocks out to the distributors. But selling out at Alliance is a good sign for the future viability of this line, which is great for the rest of us!
-Lisa
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Does anyone know why the Reaper Pathfinder range includes (on their website) 'Durin Dwarf Pathfinder Sgt.' and 'Dwarven Pathfinder Grunt'?
The script that their page uses goes through the title of the piece as well as something else (category? Product Line?) when populating those pages.... I asked Reaper customer service about this the day the red dragon was announced and they said they were working on it.
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Does anyone know why the Reaper Pathfinder range includes (on their website) 'Durin Dwarf Pathfinder Sgt.' and 'Dwarven Pathfinder Grunt'?The script that their page uses goes through the title of the piece as well as something else (category? Product Line?) when populating those pages.... I asked Reaper customer service about this the day the red dragon was announced and they said they were working on it.
Those are from their Warlord game.
Also, I posted this to the wrong thread last week:
Reaper has updated us a bit, and they've also posted some info about upcoming figures on their own boards. Here's what you might want to know:
It turns out they're not actually doing monthly waves of four minis—they're actually doing biweekly waves of two minis. They're also a bit behind (on all of their lines) from the holidays, but they're catching back up quickly. The new Seoni just arrived, along with their reissue of the Crocodile Xanesha. The new Lem and their reissue of Nualia & Erylium should be along in a week or two, followed in the coming weeks by the new Kyra and Sajan, and the reissued Merisiel and Goblin Commando on Goblin Dog. (I'm not completely sure which of those are the first pair and which are the second, but one pair should be arriving at the turn of the month, and the other in mid-February.)
Also, they've let folks know that the troll due in March is coming from the cover of the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary; the Dragon from the cover of the Core Rulebok will be out in April; and they're also working on the Carrion King, a couple other NPCs from the Council of Thieves Adventure Path, and some pugwampis. And, of course, continuing to rerelease the remaining Crocodile minis.
And in August, they plan to release six minis to coincide with the Pathfinder RPG Advanced Player's Guide release. (Hmm—I wonder what those could be?)
Thanks, Vic.
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Just announced for April:
Dorella Kreeg, Ogre Shaman and The Scribbler were both originally produced by Crocodile Games; we still have stock of each, now available at a lower price.
Gray Maiden and Red Dragon—Core Rulebook Version are both brand-new Reaper products. (We've got a photo of the green for the Dragon, but no photo for the Gray Maiden yet.)
We also have updated images for three other Pathfinder minis:
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Just announced for March:
Karzoug, Runelord of Greed and Justice Ironbriar were both originally produced by Crocodile Games; we still have stock of each, now available at a lower price.
Troll and Order of the Scourge Hellknight are both brand-new Reaper products. (Sorry—no images yet!)
We now have an image of the green for the Order of the Scourge Hellknight.
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Just announced for March:
Karzoug, Runelord of Greed and Justice Ironbriar were both originally produced by Crocodile Games; we still have stock of each, now available at a lower price.
Troll and Order of the Scourge Hellknight are both brand-new Reaper products. (Sorry—no images yet!)
We now have an image of the sculpt for the Troll.
I was wondering if there are any differences between the Reaper remakes and the Crocodile originals. Has the base shape changed? Is there any difference in quality? Anything else?
I was wondering if there are any differences between the Reaper remakes and the Crocodile originals. Has the base shape changed? Is there any difference in quality? Anything else?
Looks like all Reaper models come on their standard square bases:
Have you talked to Reaper about Legendary Encounters? You already have pathfinder minis sculpts, and they have a line where they reuse some of their metal sculpts for pre-painted plastic (and those figures rock).
I'm sure you can come to an agreement about all the legal stuff.
I was wondering if there are any differences between the Reaper remakes and the Crocodile originals. Has the base shape changed? Is there any difference in quality? Anything else?
Lower price. Reaper can buy the metal in bulk because of their economy of scale. The metal cost is the largest component in the price of their minis.
Quality is still good. I've only seen one piece that was miscast (Valeros' bow didn't get filled in one blister). Other than that one issue, I've seen no problems with the casting. The sculptors have done a great job. [Note I say this as a painter and collector, not as an official quality control employee.]
And as DeathQuaker pointed out, the minis come with square plastic bases.
Oh, Reaper is releasing new sculpts of some of the minis. Valeros and Seoni are the first. I don't know if there's word on future resculpts.
Now, if only I had time to paint them as fast as they're releasing them . . . .
Have you talked to Reaper about Legendary Encounters? You already have pathfinder minis sculpts, and they have a line where they reuse some of their metal sculpts for pre-painted plastic (and those figures rock).
I'm sure you can come to an agreement about all the legal stuff.
Thanks for reminding me of this. I agree!
Are the molds different? I thought Lisa once told us that they were.
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Are the molds different? I thought Lisa once told us that they were.
If you mean "are the sculpts different," no—Reaper's reissues are derived from the same Crocodile sculpts.
"Are the *molds* different" isn't really a useful question... molds can only be used so many times before they wear out, and then they have to be remade from masters. As long as they're made from the same masters—and they are—it doesn't really matter if they're new or old; they're functionally identical.
Sorry, Vic. I was talking about the question of whether already being set with metal minis meant one could then turn around and produce plastic miniatures without incurring additional start-up costs.
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Sorry, Vic. I was talking about the question of whether already being set with metal minis meant one could then turn around and produce plastic miniatures without incurring additional start-up costs.
Oh... yeah. Metal minis are made using silicone molds, which are relatively cheap and easy to make; temperatures and pressures involved are moderate. Plastic minis are generally made using steel molds, which are way, way more expensive, and temperatures and pressures are much higher.
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Have you talked to Reaper about Legendary Encounters? You already have pathfinder minis sculpts, and they have a line where they reuse some of their metal sculpts for pre-painted plastic (and those figures rock).
I'm sure you can come to an agreement about all the legal stuff.
Believe me, if Reaper ever comes to us and says they think the economics make sense for them to make prepainted plastic Pathfinder minis, we'll be very, very inclined to let them.