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When a wizard levels does a familiar get extra feats and ability boosts as per Table 3-1 on p30?
I read this for HD advancement on p82:
'Hit Dice: For the purpose of effects related to number of
Hit Dice, use the master’s character level or the familiar’s
normal HD total, whichever is higher.'
What other 'effects' may need to be considered?
Many thanks for any guidance.
J
This relates to spells and similar effects that have restrictions like "affects creatures with up to 4 hit dice" or "affect a total of 10 hit dice of creatures". Several school and domain powers have a restriction like "creatures with more Hit Dice than your wizard level are unaffected".
For example, if a Wizard (Enchanter) 6 attempts to use Dazing Touch on the familiar of a Wizard 5/Fighter 2, it fails because the familiar is considered as having 7 hit dice.
The familiar doesn't get feats or skills of its own, beyond the standard ones for an animal of its type. It can use its master's ranks in a skill (but not other modifiers to the check).
This relates to spells and similar effects that have restrictions like "affects creatures with up to 4 hit dice" or "affect a total of 10 hit dice of creatures". Several school and domain powers have a restriction like "creatures with more Hit Dice than your wizard level are unaffected".
For example, if a Wizard (Enchanter) 6 attempts to use Dazing Touch on the familiar of a Wizard 5/Fighter 2, it fails because the familiar is considered as having 7 hit dice.
The familiar doesn't get feats or skills of its own, beyond the standard ones for an animal of its type. It can use its master's ranks in a skill (but not other modifiers to the check).
I just asked this question in another thread.
I can't seem to find anything to support your interpretation. Mind telling me where you got it from (and please don't say v3.5)?
I don't see any fault in Udalrich's comment.
Re HD
"Hit Dice: For the purpose of effects related to number of Hit Dice, use the master’s character level or the familiar’s normal HD total, whichever is higher."
From the core rule book. P.82 'Familiar Basics'
As to familiars gaining feats there is also a table of familiar abilities on page 83 that lists abilities by # of levels the master has in a familiar friendly class. No mention of extra feats.
So there it is (Please don't say you don't understand it or that its vague.)
Thanks udalrich - very clear.
A related familiar question:
The Improved Familiar feat has the prerequisite "sufficiently high level (see below)" and in improved familiars table it lists the "Arcane Spellcaster Level" needed to take the various improved familiars. "Arcane Spellcaster Level" sounds to be independent from the class level of the class which originally granted the arcane bond. Does that mean that a wizard who multiclasses into a prestige class that advances his spellcasting ability to a sufficiently high level can take a familiar that his wizard level alone wouldn't normally allow?
I can't seem to find anything to support your interpretation. Mind telling me where you got it from (and please don't say v3.5)?
It retains the appearance, Hit Dice, base attack bonus, base save bonuses, skills, and feats of the normal animal it once was, but is now a magical beast for the purpose of effects that depend on its type.
That's from the familiar section of the wizard class, a few paragraphs before the section you were looking at.
It also seems to me that "having a feat" is not an "effect".
I can't seem to find anything to support your interpretation. Mind telling me where you got it from (and please don't say v3.5)?It retains the appearance, Hit Dice, base attack bonus, base save bonuses, skills, and feats of the normal animal it once was, but is now a magical beast for the purpose of effects that depend on its type.
That's from the familiar section of the wizard class, a few paragraphs before the section you were looking at.
It also seems to me that "having a feat" is not an "effect".
*facepalms*
Thank you.
A related familiar question:
The Improved Familiar feat has the prerequisite "sufficiently high level (see below)" and in improved familiars table it lists the "Arcane Spellcaster Level" needed to take the various improved familiars. "Arcane Spellcaster Level" sounds to be independent from the class level of the class which originally granted the arcane bond. Does that mean that a wizard who multiclasses into a prestige class that advances his spellcasting ability to a sufficiently high level can take a familiar that his wizard level alone wouldn't normally allow?
It looks like the improved familiar feat has different requirements than those needed for the progression of an attained familiar. Presumably, so long as you had the "Gain Familiar" feat already you could summon a new familiar with just the arcane level requirement. Your arcane class would still have to be entitled to a familiar for many abilities and familiar development though.
"Levels of different classes that are entitled to familiars stack for the purpose of determining any familiar abilities that depend on the master’s level."
Many of the prestige classes especially do not include familiar advancement.
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Question i have a Azata, Lyrakien http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/azata/azata-lyr akien
She has a 14 intel the familiar progression is unclear to me, I'm also a 3rd lvl wiz, 3rd lvl cleric, 4th lvl mystic theurge. I wish to know is the progression a bonus to her stat or is it meant for lesser familiars since they normally start out with a 2 int?