| sempai33 |
I've got one question concerning the sunder and almost the hardness and HP of weapon.
If I well understand, a fighter (for example) want to perform a sunder with his improve sunder and his sword, has to exceed the AC of the weapon (a +1). But the AC of the weapon is equal to 10 + 0 (medium) -5 (dex modifier) - 2 so = 3! Very easy in fact!
After that he make his damage - the hardness (= 10 +2 because of the weapon +1) and the HP of the weapon is = 10 +10 (because of the weapon +1).
That's right ?
So in my campaign the fighter with a greatsword +1, make 2D6 +13 of damage (without power attack) so he can ruin every weapon by that way, no?
| Beastman |
...want to perform a sunder with his improve sunder and his sword, has to exceed the AC of the weapon
No. He makes a combat maneuver check against the opponent's combat maneuver defense. If successfull, he deals damage to item. The items hardness is deducted from the damage roll result and any excess damage reduces the item's hit points. And yes, if your fighter with 2d6+13 damage potential sunders successfully, there is a good chance he destroyes the weapon (but only if he chooses to do so) - indeed he automatically would destroy any light or one-handed weapon.
| Ernest Mueller |
That's right. The object AC stuff is used for unattended objects, so what you calculated would be your chance to sunder a sword lying on the ground. If someone's using it, it's CMB vs CMD as Beastman points out.
One word of caution with a sunder build, be careful to not sunder magical loot, your party will arrange for you to have an "accident" if you keep destroying magic swords they want...
Darius Silverbolt
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That's right. The object AC stuff is used for unattended objects, so what you calculated would be your chance to sunder a sword lying on the ground. If someone's using it, it's CMB vs CMD as Beastman points out.
One word of caution with a sunder build, be careful to not sunder magical loot, your party will arrange for you to have an "accident" if you keep destroying magic swords they want...
That is why DISARM is soooo much better ;-) You party tends to want to you dead less often if you disarm the +5 Vorpal party slaying sword vs Sundering it.
| Eric Mason 37 |
Ok thanks, that's just because in the description of sunder, ther is nothing which talk about CMD ! So that's why I'm asking that question!
Thanks a lot all of us !
You have to look at the top of the section. You are reading the little part about sunder that differentiates it from the other combat maneuvers, rather than the details on what combat maneuvers are/how they work in general :)