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I am new to the Pathfinder setting and am quickly soaking in the setting as humanly possible. There's still a lot I haven't read yet, but I am getting ready to launch the Council of Thieves AP for my players.
My question, one of my players is wanting to play a tiefling, but he is wanting is non-demon half to be elf. His concept is his mother was captured in Cheliax by a wizard and then repeatedly raped by demons in the hopes of this bizarre tiefling. A few children were born and foul sorceries were used to increase the natural birth cycles of the elven woman.
So many random thoughts are sprouting from my mind due to his character concept. I'll limit them for now to just these:
-How would the elves of Golarion view this?
-What kind of elven repercussions would their be for when the party leaves Cheliax and eventually encounters elvenkind?
-Wanting to reward my player for a unique character concept over something than he usually plays, what kind of racial traits should I write up for him to choose from, if any?
I am new to the Pathfinder setting and am quickly soaking in the setting as humanly possible. There's still a lot I haven't read yet, but I am getting ready to launch the Council of Thieves AP for my players.
My question, one of my players is wanting to play a tiefling, but he is wanting is non-demon half to be elf. His concept is his mother was captured in Cheliax by a wizard and then repeatedly raped by demons in the hopes of this bizarre tiefling. A few children were born and foul sorceries were used to increase the natural birth cycles of the elven woman.
So many random thoughts are sprouting from my mind due to his character concept. I'll limit them for now to just these:
-How would the elves of Golarion view this?
-What kind of elven repercussions would their be for when the party leaves Cheliax and eventually encounters elvenkind?
-Wanting to reward my player for a unique character concept over something than he usually plays, what kind of racial traits should I write up for him to choose from, if any?
Huh. Morbid. But... hey.
1} I took the article on tieflings to represent global attitudes towards them, not just Westcrown. There's not generally visible racism in D&D (except the usual us vs "monsters" thing), so I don't think elves would react any differently than anyone else. The product of rape is the product of rape regardless of he/she's human or elven, so I don't think they'd be any more upset than any other non-monster race that meets him/her.
2} Again, no different from anyone else. People don't like tieflings or trust them. Most people who meet him/her aren't going to know his/her heritage. Nobody normal would advertise that much. "Hi, nice to meet you, my mother was gang-raped by wizards to produce ME! So, hey, how much for that masterwork dagger?" <<-- Although that would be GREAT twisted role-play for him/her to create a borderline sociopath that doesn't quite "get it" how he/she is giving Too Much Information.
Those few people he/she shares his/her heritage with are probably friends anyway, so no big issue.
3} No special stats. Seriously. Tiefling stats don't deviate based on what the parent's race are. Doesn't matter if the parents are dwarves or elves or humans or gnolls. The result is a tiefling. That being said, hit the article on tieflings and help your player pick something cool from the nearly 100 description attributes given there. Reward him by letting him play the character, and maybe by having some choice over what it looks like.
Those are my thoughts. You don't need to make a freak tiefling for your player. Being a tiefling is being a freak, period.
My question, one of my players is wanting to play a tiefling, but he is wanting is non-demon half to be elf. His concept is his mother was captured in Cheliax by a wizard and then repeatedly raped by demons in the hopes of this bizarre tiefling. A few children were born and foul sorceries were used to increase the natural birth cycles of the elven woman.
So many random thoughts are sprouting from my mind due to his character concept. I'll limit them for now to just these:
-How would the elves of Golarion view this?
Wow that's dark stuff.
Well, most elves don't exactly have much respect for half-humans (half-elves) so I would think elves would consider an elven tiefling a bit of an abomination. Still, elves arn't the sort of folk to kill an individual just because they're different.-What kind of elven repercussions would their be for when the party leaves Cheliax and eventually encounters elvenkind?
Extreme distrust, like any other Tiefling.
-Wanting to reward my player for a unique character concept over something than he usually plays, what kind of racial traits should I write up for him to choose from, if any?
I think the tiefling stats are fine, but if you want to make it different then I'd suggest you slap on the -2 penalty to Constitution but add on all the elf racial bonuses (immunity to sleep effects, +2 vs enchantments, keen senses, etc).
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I think the tiefling stats are fine, but if you want to make it different then I'd suggest you slap on the -2 penalty to Constitution but add on all the elf racial bonuses (immunity to sleep effects, +2 vs enchantments, keen senses, etc).
Thanks. I think that's the best idea I've seen yet.
As to the "that's dark" statements, that's pretty mundane compared to some of the horrors I've read about in the Pathfinder CS. The dark/demonic horror aspect of the background I felt particular fitting for Cheliax.
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My search-foo appears to be weakening. In which 3ed or 3.5 book were the tiefling traits covered? I may have to scour a friends library, but at least, I'd like to know what book I am looking for.
They're in the Monster Manual under Planetouched. They're also in the SRD.
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They're in the Monster Manual under Planetouched. They're also in the SRD.
Nah, there used to be a huge list of like planar traits for tieflings and I can't remember where it was listed.