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Lost Omens Campaign Setting General Discussion


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I was wondering off all the things you have created, thus far, what things did you think would take off, but the community didn't seem to take it the way you intended? What about things the community has jumped on that you never expected?

Just some examples:
've seen several threads asking about Aroden, and what domains he might have used, all for a dead God.
It also seems like Gnomes are a big hit here, were those anticipated, or did they receive much more interest than you first expected?

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Revamping gnomes was a major goal of our new publishing venture even before it was called Pathfinder. As for didn't take off, nothing that I can think of really. Honestly, with all the ideas we've shot out there with all the Pathfinder lines in the last two years there's not a lot of sense to tying your hopes to one or two pet ideas before they meet public scrutiny. It kind of like tossing a huge pot of spaghetti at the wall, some pieces stick, some drop off onto the floor, and some blast through the wall and set the neighbor's house on fire. You never expect the latter, but it's always super satisfying when it happens. (Sean's my cube neighbor by the by.)

Now back to writing my article on Hellknights. :P


F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
It['s] kind of like tossing a huge pot of spaghetti at the wall, some pieces stick, some drop off onto the floor, and some blast through the wall and set the neighbor's house on fire.

Does this example hold true in the sense that MOST of the spaghetti won't stick to the wall?


You've got to cook the pasta right.

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Awesomesauce helps it cling.


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F. Wesley Schneider wrote:

It kind of like tossing a huge pot of spaghetti at the wall, some pieces stick, some drop off onto the floor, and some blast through the wall and set the neighbor's house on fire.

Now I know what happened to my house :P

Damned Spaghetti

Scarab Sages

cook the sauce til it turns to paste, then your spaghetti will stick just fine...

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Kyle Baird wrote:
Does this example hold true in the sense that MOST of the spaghetti won't stick to the wall?

Probably. Fortunately, ideas - like pasta - are cheap.


F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
Kyle Baird wrote:
Does this example hold true in the sense that MOST of the spaghetti won't stick to the wall?
Probably. Fortunately, ideas - like pasta - are cheap.

I see... So ideas are the Ramen noodles of the Game Design world? What's the most common flavor?

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Chicken.

Scarab Sages

Gotta watch some ideas, because like Ramen noodles, too much salt make them have a bad aftertaste to some, and others love the salty goodness...

Silver Crusade

I like to think that we've disturbed the writers just a bit with all the questions about the iconics' sexual proclivities.

Harsk = bear, true story


F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
It kind of like tossing a huge pot of spaghetti at the wall, some pieces stick, some drop off onto the floor, and some blast through the wall and set the neighbor's house on fire.

Hm... have you checked your ingredients? Death Pasta's ingredients differ wildly from the regular, eating pasta.

Liberty's Edge

Mikaze wrote:

I like to think that we've disturbed the writers just a bit with all the questions about the iconics' sexual proclivities.

Harsk = bear, true story

o_O

Link?


Biggest success ever?

Hellknights. Yeah, baby.

Dark Archive

Grimcleaver wrote:

Biggest success ever?

Hellknights. Yeah, baby.

Nah, it's gotta be Goblins. I love the little blighters, but they've gone crazy (and, perhaps, a bit too far?) with Goblins in Golarion, to the point of creating multiple monster types inspired by Goblins (Goblin Dogs, Goblin Snakes, etc) *and* tweaking the appearance of Bugbears and Hobgoblins to somewhat resemble Golarion Goblins (which, to my eye, was not the best idea, ever, since Hobgoblins and Bugbears are both pretty awesomely depicted in most 3E and 3rd party stuff, and the grey-skinned football-headed saucer-eyed look doesn't work quite so well for non-comic-relief critters, IMO).

Once Hellknights have an actual class (or Prestige Class, or at least some relevant Feats / Traits), then I'll be able to call them a hit. Right now they are just some incredibly tantalizing flavor text...

I'm surprised (pleasantly) at the popularity of Osirion, being a huge fan of Egyptian stuff (and having been disappointed at the dearth of development of Mulhorand in the Realms), bemused by the popularity of Andoran (which does nothing for me), amused by the popularity of Cheliax (which is pretty awesome) and perplexed by the lack of popularity of Qadira, given the fairly rabid niche popularity of the Al-Qadim setting (myself being one of the more foaming-at-the-mouth Zakhara fans). Taldor's (relative) lack of popularity compared to some of the other faction areas doesn't surprise me as much. I picture it as intrigue-heavy competing city-states era Italy, myself, with all the decadence of a post-Roman Rennaissance state that suggests, but that doesn't seem to have drawn as much attention.

Then again, the faction choices I've seen may just be disproportionate and biasing my perception...

Silver Crusade

Grimcleaver wrote:


Hellknights. Yeah, baby.

FIGHT THE POWER!

Shoanti FTW!

Got our 'breakers and klars and we're ready to rock,
We'll be knockin' your @#$% up and down the block!


Mikaze wrote:


Got our 'breakers and klars

Ein Klarer, bitte!

Liberty's Edge

F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
Revamping gnomes was a major goal of our new publishing venture even before it was called Pathfinder.

Shame though really, I always preferred the "Gnomes as tinkers" type interpretation.

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Coridan wrote:
F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
Revamping gnomes was a major goal of our new publishing venture even before it was called Pathfinder.
Shame though really, I always preferred the "Gnomes as tinkers" type interpretation.

Even with the strong fey vibe the gnomes have going, I still think that find that tinker still part of the Gnome thing. It would be just a subset though if you asked me.

Personally I like the idea of a Gnome Artificer in the role of magical tinker. Given some of the recreations of Artificer I have been seeing her on the boards, I doubt that I will be disappointed.

Silver Crusade

Set wrote:


I'm surprised (pleasantly) at the popularity of Osirion, being a huge fan of Egyptian stuff (and having been disappointed at the dearth of development of Mulhorand in the Realms), bemused by the popularity of Andoran (which does nothing for me), amused by the popularity of Cheliax (which is pretty awesome) and perplexed by the lack of popularity of Qadira, given the fairly rabid niche popularity of the Al-Qadim setting (myself being one of the more foaming-at-the-mouth Zakhara fans). Taldor's (relative) lack of popularity compared to some of the other faction areas doesn't surprise me as much. I picture it as intrigue-heavy competing city-states era Italy, myself, with all the decadence of a post-Roman Rennaissance state that suggests, but that doesn't seem to have drawn as much attention.

Then again, the faction choices I've seen may just be disproportionate and biasing my perception...

Nope, it's the pretty much the same in my reigon too. Osirions, Andorens, only one Qadiran, and nobody else. Cheliax doesn't seem to have caught on here. Taldor would be a very interesting setting for a internal intrigue kind of campaign, but they're just not heroic enough to be inspired to the Pathfinder Society.

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Shadewest wrote:
Taldor would be a very interesting setting for a internal intrigue kind of campaign, but they're just not heroic enough to be inspired to the Pathfinder Society.

That's exactly what we want you to think. Now wait for the knife in your back. Just kidding! (Or am I?)

Scarab Sages Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games

Herald wrote:
Coridan wrote:
F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
Revamping gnomes was a major goal of our new publishing venture even before it was called Pathfinder.
Shame though really, I always preferred the "Gnomes as tinkers" type interpretation.

Even with the strong fey vibe the gnomes have going, I still think that find that tinker still part of the Gnome thing. It would be just a subset though if you asked me.

Hey, who's one of the most famousest fairies in "Western culture" (so to speak)?

Tinker Bell, of course. A fairy, and a tinker!

See, she's the OG (Original Gnome) :)


Jason Nelson wrote:
Herald wrote:
Coridan wrote:
F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
Revamping gnomes was a major goal of our new publishing venture even before it was called Pathfinder.
Shame though really, I always preferred the "Gnomes as tinkers" type interpretation.

Even with the strong fey vibe the gnomes have going, I still think that find that tinker still part of the Gnome thing. It would be just a subset though if you asked me.

Hey, who's one of the most famousest fairies in "Western culture" (so to speak)?

Tinker Bell, of course. A fairy, and a tinker!

See, she's the OG (Original Gnome) :)

She must have the diminuitive template then :P - and acquired wings somewheres ... hrm ... ^_^


KaeYoss wrote:
Mikaze wrote:


Got our 'breakers and klars
Ein Klarer, bitte!

Oder ein Kurzer! (While we are at the Gnome topic...)

Stefan


Turin the Mad wrote:
Jason Nelson wrote:
Herald wrote:
Coridan wrote:
F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
Revamping gnomes was a major goal of our new publishing venture even before it was called Pathfinder.
Shame though really, I always preferred the "Gnomes as tinkers" type interpretation.

Even with the strong fey vibe the gnomes have going, I still think that find that tinker still part of the Gnome thing. It would be just a subset though if you asked me.

Hey, who's one of the most famousest fairies in "Western culture" (so to speak)?

Tinker Bell, of course. A fairy, and a tinker!

See, she's the OG (Original Gnome) :)

She must have the diminuitive template then :P - and acquired wings somewheres ... hrm ... ^_^

Well, the wings are steam driven, and as they could not get too large, she had to shrink, of course (perfect Gnome logic, I think). The fairy dust is just the ash from the minute steam engine driven with magical coal.

Stefan

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