Quick questions on skills


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In pathfinder if an cleric has a 8 Int. do they loose all skill points? And what if they have a larger penalty than skills granted to level?


Pathfiner RPG Beta(Page 7) wrote:

You apply your character’s Intelligence modifier to:

• The number of skill points gained each level, though your character always gets at least 1 skill point per level.

A PC or monster always gets a minimum number of skill points of 1. No matter what their Intelligence modifier is. Add in your Favored Class bonus and a PC can actually get 2 skill points a level even with a with a 3 intelligence.


Thanks.


ShadowChemosh wrote:
Pathfiner RPG Beta(Page 7) wrote:

You apply your character’s Intelligence modifier to:

• The number of skill points gained each level, though your character always gets at least 1 skill point per level.

A PC or monster always gets a minimum number of skill points of 1. No matter what their Intelligence modifier is. Add in your Favored Class bonus and a PC can actually get 2 skill points a level even with a with a 3 intelligence.

I'm not sure the latter is true. The minimum 1 skill point is, as far as I know, after all mods.


I'll second KaeYoss on that one. You get a minimum of one skill point per level, full stop.


I'm in favor of having the bonuses for favored class and human racial ability take place after the subtraction. Sort of (X +/- Y(minimum 1))+A+B instead of (X+A+B) +/- Y (minimum 1) where X is class skill points per level, Y is intelligence bonus or penalty, A is favored class bonus, and B is human racial bonus.

Yes that means that the really stupid (int 3) human fighter would still gain a minimum of 3 skill points but just because he's a moron doesn't mean he can't be good with animals or able to climb mountains.


vuron wrote:

I'm in favor of having the bonuses for favored class and human racial ability take place after the subtraction. Sort of (X +/- Y(minimum 1))+A+B instead of (X+A+B) +/- Y (minimum 1) where X is class skill points per level, Y is intelligence bonus or penalty, A is favored class bonus, and B is human racial bonus.

Yes that means that the really stupid (int 3) human fighter would still gain a minimum of 3 skill points but just because he's a moron doesn't mean he can't be good with animals or able to climb mountains.

I support this view-point. Humans gain the bonus skill point because they are Humans, nothing to do with INT scores, the Favoured class feature could be ruled either way however, but as stated, I would allow it. DM's call.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

Agreed. The favored class provides a bonus akin to the human derived bonus for skill points. Its not included in the calculation for number of skill points per class level and cannot be lost due to intelligence.

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