| Todd Stewart Contributor |
Forgive my ignorance....But arent Demodands in the Monster Manual II or the Fiend Folio?
Im not sure which, but either way they arent in the SRD and monsters from the MM2 and FF can't appear in Pathfinder right?
They also appeared in the Tome of Horrors, which opened them up for OGL usage.
| BenS |
Sadly they were victims of being cut for space. They would have appeared in the Abbadon section, immediately following the details on the Oinodaemon, since their origin was linked. Given the opportunity, I'd love to approach them in a future book.
I pray the Paizo Lords let you write the Book of the Damned (2 or 3) that deals w/ the NE fiends, then. That much less you'd have to write from scratch ;-)
Samuel Leming
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Sadly they were victims of being cut for space. They would have appeared in the Abbadon section, immediately following the details on the Oinodaemon, since their origin was linked. Given the opportunity, I'd love to approach them in a future book.
Did you intend them to be the Oinodaemon's jailers/guardians? Is there anything more you're willing to tell us?
Um... What else wound up being cut?
| Todd Stewart Contributor |
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Todd Stewart wrote:Sadly they were victims of being cut for space. They would have appeared in the Abbadon section, immediately following the details on the Oinodaemon, since their origin was linked. Given the opportunity, I'd love to approach them in a future book.Did you intend them to be the Oinodaemon's jailers/guardians? Is there anything more you're willing to tell us?
Um... What else wound up being cut?
Mind you, their details when they eventually show up may differ from my original vision if either someone else writes them, or James et al decide to go a specific, different route with them (like how the prehistory of the Abyss and the Maelstrom changed slightly from my original idea, but honestly I think it ended up better that way). Without saying everything, the demodands section riffed off of the Planescape myth of Apomps to a degree, and had the demodands as effectively the closing segment of a genocidal/suicidal circle along with the daemons - the other serpent eternally devouring its twin - and a direct extension of the Bound Prince's will and fury after the four archdaemon's seized power. Demodands would have been formed not from mortal souls directly, but only from the ritualistic sacrifice of a daemon.
As for things that were on the chopping block:
An astral location called the Temenos Spike / Jzerigoth's Dagger got chopped, some items and spells were cut, a listing of minor daemonic nobles and their loyalties to the four archdaemons were chopped, a location in the Maelstrom called the Gilded Cage was cut as well as a second location called the Ossuary (only to reappear in PF#22). Some demiplanes were cut. A sidebar on The Risen and a section on the Candleflame Chancre was cut from the Abyss section. A location on Shadow was cut. And the section on the Night Hag goddess/patron/undefined lovecraftian horror from beyond named Alazhra was cut. And I know folks will be sad, but we lost a mention of a hermaphroditic maralith servitor of Lamashtu. ;)
The lesson is that I wrote too much. We may see some of it in the future like how the Ossuary showed up in PF22 in the protean ecology. However given what remained, I cannot complain in the slightest. Some stuff had to go, and the editing job on that was pretty surgical and painless.
| Tom Qadim RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16, 2011 Top 32, 2012 Top 4 |
Wow, I hope many of those cut items find their way into future Pathfinder modules and supplements. The locations are all very intriguing, and I'd love to hear more about Alazhra and the minor daemonic nobles.
And I know folks will be sad, but we lost a mention of a hermaphroditic maralith servitor of Lamashtu.
That's hot! Seoni who?