New, unified Animal Companion Rules???


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I seem to recall reading that Jason and company are revising the rules for Animal Companions (Druid and Ranger), as well as for the Paladin's mount and maybe even the Wizard / Sorcerer's familiar so that they all use a single, more standardized set of rules.

My question is ... am I nuts or is this in fact correct? Assuming I am recalling correctly, did Jason post these new rules? For some reason, I thought I remembered seeing these revised rules posted as a teaser.

Again, I could just be nuts ...

Thanks everyone!

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JoelF847 wrote:
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Bingo! That looks like what I remember!

Thanks man!!!


Brodiggan Gale made some awesome PDFs of all the post-Beta updates in that thread...

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  • I've been playing a druid with those rules since the beginning of our Second Darkness campaign, and I do love having a big cat from the beginning of my career (it always bothered me that you had to wait so long to get a cat in 3.5, if that was the theme you wanted).

    The one thing that does bother me, though, is that it still isn't inclusive enough of the "higher level" ACs. I'd like some way to obtain, say, a Dire Bat or other large flyer (and a druid could pull off a Dire Bat by 4th level the old way) or even some magical beasts and what-not. I'd love to see the PFRPG include these rules and rules for more advanced animals as well. Perhaps via feat selection...

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    Disciple of Sakura wrote:

    I've been playing a druid with those rules since the beginning of our Second Darkness campaign, and I do love having a big cat from the beginning of my career (it always bothered me that you had to wait so long to get a cat in 3.5, if that was the theme you wanted).

    The one thing that does bother me, though, is that it still isn't inclusive enough of the "higher level" ACs. I'd like some way to obtain, say, a Dire Bat or other large flyer (and a druid could pull off a Dire Bat by 4th level the old way) or even some magical beasts and what-not. I'd love to see the PFRPG include these rules and rules for more advanced animals as well. Perhaps via feat selection...

    Agreed. I'm rolling a 9th-level druid for our next session (I terminated my halfling fighter/rogue for RP reasons as his CG alignment did not mesh with the emerging leader of our group: a True Neutral tiefling devoted to profit-making and with a superiority complex)

    I find that the options for a Dire Wolf or Dire Wolverine are appealing, but the "unified" rules do not support "big animal companions" at higher levels...

    I want to base my druid on the Mounted Combat feat tree, so I need a large animal, and I'd like something else than a horse or camel (those damn hooves are not good in dungeons... enemies hear you a mile away! big wolves are "ok" but a large cat or riding lizard would be much cooler -- think drow riding lizards with sticky feets going up on walls and stuff... :) )

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    Also: do any of you know how to transform your animal companion into another animal? See, I went in that dungeon with a big dire wolf... came to a chasm. My druid wild shaped into a bird and flew across. I wish "share spell" would allow me to morph my wolf simultaneously. As written, spell-like abilities like wild shape cannot be transferred to the wolf. And go figure: beast shape is NOT on the druid's spell list!!!! O_o

    Can't the druid get some kind of "alter self" spell designed for a "touched creature of the animal type?"

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    Purple Dragon Knight wrote:


    big wolves are "ok" but a large cat or riding lizard would be much cooler -- think drow riding lizards with sticky feets going up on walls and stuff... :) )

    Not sure about the lizard but there is already an option for a big cat (Lion/tiger) starts of medium but at 7th lvl becomes large so it is rideable.

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