Kobold Quarterly vs Dungeon / Dragon Mag


3.5/d20/OGL


I, like many people, miss Dungeon Mag. In my view, print copy is superior to digital for reading adventures etc.

For those of you who regularly use Kobold Quarterly, how does it rate against Dungeon Mag?

Info here will go a long way to me becoming a KQ customer in an effort to satisfy my hard copy tendencies.

Thanks guys.


KQ is closer to Dragon Magazine than Dungeon Magazine. I think that given a few years, KQ will almost be as good as Dragon. Dragon had years to mature and ind it's place, KQ is doing a good job, but some things take time. However, having said that, I feel that it is worth the price for KQ. I have enjoyed every issue that I have to this point.

As of yet, nothing has quite equaled Dungeon Magazine. I would love to see someone try to pull off someting like Dungeon, but I dubt that it will occur for a while.

P.S. - IMHO I would suggest getting a subscription. I have found KQ to be well worth the money spent.


If you're looking for adventures, then KQ is not the place to go...but if you're looking for everything else, then yes yes yes. I had to put my sub on hold at one point and I anguished over the missing issues. Worth every penny - they do have a PDF & Print sub available. :)

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KQ has articles in it written by yours truly. Dragon did not.

I think its clear who the winner is there.


Now Lilith Quarterly is well worth the price. It is amazing what cookies and beer she makes for her loyal subscribers every 3 months! ~GRINS and runs~


Ross Byers wrote:

KQ has articles in it written by yours truly. Dragon did not.

I think its clear who the winner is there.

~LAUGHTER~ Good point!

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I think KQ is a pretty cool mag. It is like Lilith says, more background material than you can shake a stick at. There's 4e, 3.5e, and Pathfinder stuff in it. (the ratio changes per issue to let you know.)
I am happy to be a subscriber.


Ross Byers wrote:

KQ has articles in it written by yours truly. Dragon did not.

I think its clear who the winner is there.

Yeah, and I heard KQ is discovering and using new artist talents :P

Now for real, KQ is a mini Dragon with articles just as good as Paizo's late Dragon magazine. The only thing KQ misses -for now- is a a bit of budget to increase pagecount and some color print/art, but the essence is the same. I recommend KQ 110%

Also I qould LOVE to see someone publishing a "Dungeon" like magazine. No matter if its quarterly... ;)


Sharoth wrote:
Now Lilith Quarterly is well worth the price. It is amazing what cookies and beer she makes for her loyal subscribers every 3 months! ~GRINS and runs~

LOL! I might consider this LQ, if there's enough interest. :D

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Hugo Solis wrote:

Also I qould LOVE to see someone publishing a "Dungeon" like magazine. No matter if its quarterly... ;)

Paizo's APs are not considered Dungeon's successor?


joela wrote:
Hugo Solis wrote:

Also I qould LOVE to see someone publishing a "Dungeon" like magazine. No matter if its quarterly... ;)

Paizo's APs are not considered Dungeon's successor?

My superscribe tag says yes to this, but I still miss the printed magazine with 3-5 short adventures and other small goodies. Don't you?


joela wrote:
Hugo Solis wrote:

Also I qould LOVE to see someone publishing a "Dungeon" like magazine. No matter if its quarterly... ;)

Paizo's APs are not considered Dungeon's successor?

Yes and No. Yes, it is the AP successor to the APs in Dungeon Magazine. No, because Dungeon Magazine was so much more than the APs. Now, having said that, I love what Paizo has done with the cards that they were dealt.


Thanks, Guys/Gals.

You've convinced me to subscribe although, without drawing any unwanted flaming (this is a 3.5/OGL forum afetr all.....), the 4E stuff doesn't interest me but I guess I'll just have to look past that.

I've always wondered how difficult it would be to get a Dungeon mag "replacement" off the ground. Do you think wizards weren't making that much profit from those publications?

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Hugo Solis wrote:
joela wrote:
Hugo Solis wrote:

Also I qould LOVE to see someone publishing a "Dungeon" like magazine. No matter if its quarterly... ;)

Paizo's APs are not considered Dungeon's successor?
My superscribe tag says yes to this, but I still miss the printed magazine with 3-5 short adventures and other small goodies. Don't you?

Well, there is that....

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Tronos wrote:


You've convinced me to subscribe although, without drawing any unwanted flaming (this is a 3.5/OGL forum afetr all.....), the 4E stuff doesn't interest me but I guess I'll just have to look past that.

Stating you're not interested in 4E won't cause a flamewar. (Most of the time). Now saying you don't like 4E because it's not the REAL D&D/only retards play it/I'm not a lemming...! ;-)

Tronos wrote:
I've always wondered how difficult it would be to get a Dungeon mag "replacement" off the ground.

Very, very expensive, apparently, low, low, low chance of profitability, and guaranteed chance of major financial losses. Paizo has been asked more than once about the issue and it's not touching printed mags with a ten foot pole.

Tronos wrote:
Do you think wizards weren't making that much profit from those publications?

Unknown.


I love Pathfinder, but it's not really a replacement to Dungeon, since the APs are all related, in Dungeon it took a year to get an AP, since it was one part per month..

I miss Paizo's Dungeon, there were so many good articles and low level adventures in it. Not to mention the extra stuff at the back.


Yeah, there isn't any magazine which really replaces Dungeon. Besides Dungeon itself, but it isn't that flexible and only has 4E articles.
KQ is the successor to Dragon, but it's pretty different in my opinion. It's a bit closer to the readers, and it feels a bit more 'home done'.


Ross Byers wrote:

KQ has articles in it written by yours truly. Dragon did not.

I think its clear who the winner is there.

Wait a minute...articles plural?

I wonder if it's too late to get a partial refund...

Spoiler:
Hurr-hurr! I love the feisty Kobold and its minions. I just hope that the 4e content doesn't get out-of-hand. Of course, providing conversions would also be a way of softening those occasions for me.

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Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Wait a minute...articles plural?

Well, not all in the same one.


So, can one buy KQ as a printed mag (as it seems one can from viewing other areas of this site) or is it PDF only?


Tronos wrote:
So, can one buy KQ as a printed mag (as it seems one can from viewing other areas of this site) or is it PDF only?

PDF or Print AND PDF.


Very, very expensive, apparently, low, low, low chance of profitability, and guaranteed chance of major financial losses. Paizo has been asked more than once about the issue and it's not touching printed mags with a ten foot pole.

Tronos wrote:
Do you think wizards weren't making that much profit from those publications?
Unknown.

So, if the mag can be bought in print, surely they are touching it with a 10' pole.

Maybe there could be some money in it with the right exposure. I see plenty of writers/developers advertise their projects on this very messageboard.

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Tronos wrote:
So, if the mag can be bought in print, surely they are touching it with a 10' pole.

Paizo doesn't make KQ. Wolfgang Baur's company, Open Design does.


Lilith wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
Now Lilith Quarterly is well worth the price. It is amazing what cookies and beer she makes for her loyal subscribers every 3 months! ~GRINS and runs~
LOL! I might consider this LQ, if there's enough interest. :D

Where do I sign up for the beer only subscription? I'm not so interested in the cookies line...

As for the Dungeon "successor," Weredragon is trying, but I haven't seen much since the first issue (and I wasn't a Dungeon reader, so I have nothing to compare too). It is PDF only.

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Tronos wrote:


Maybe there could be some money in it with the right exposure. I see plenty of writers/developers advertise their projects on this very messageboard.

The "right" exposure, state Paizo, is name recognition (e.g., Dungeon, Dragon, etc.) Retailers like hobby stores and bookstores won't buy copies unless they can sell it and sell it fast.

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