Wild Shape and Plant Domain


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I know this has been discussed before, but the description for unarmed attacks in the combat section lists an animals natural attacks as "armed" unarmed attacks, so wouldn't the plant domains wood fist supernatural ability apply to the natural attacks of an animal since technically they are still unarmed attacks? The way I see it, the ability is part of your body, so since you aren't attacking with a manufactured weapon while in an animal form the wood fist should still take its affect... Somebody please clarify. The other topics discussing this are mainly speculation and personal preferences from people as GMs.

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DeathCon 00 wrote:
I know this has been discussed before, but the description for unarmed attacks in the combat section lists an animals natural attacks as "armed" unarmed attacks, so wouldn't the plant domains wood fist supernatural ability apply to the natural attacks of an animal since technically they are still unarmed attacks? The way I see it, the ability is part of your body, so since you aren't attacking with a manufactured weapon while in an animal form the wood fist should still take its affect... Somebody please clarify. The other topics discussing this are mainly speculation and personal preferences from people as GMs.

Well I think the point of confusion is that there is a difference between an unarmed attack and an unarmed strike. I believe that the difference is that an unarmed strike is an actual specific weapon while an unarmed attack is a category of attacks governed by special rules. So since the plant domain special ability only says it modifies unarmed strikes the benefits only apply to unarmed strikes and not to unarmed attacks in general.


WWWW wrote:
Well I think the point of confusion is that there is a difference between an unarmed attack and an unarmed strike. I believe that the difference is that an unarmed strike is an actual specific weapon while an unarmed attack is a category of attacks governed by special rules. So since the plant domain special ability only says it modifies unarmed strikes the benefits only apply to unarmed strikes and not to unarmed attacks in general.

I would tend to agree. Also - if your bite attack is covered over in bark, wouldn't that drop the damage not increase it?

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Majuba wrote:
WWWW wrote:
Well I think the point of confusion is that there is a difference between an unarmed attack and an unarmed strike. I believe that the difference is that an unarmed strike is an actual specific weapon while an unarmed attack is a category of attacks governed by special rules. So since the plant domain special ability only says it modifies unarmed strikes the benefits only apply to unarmed strikes and not to unarmed attacks in general.
I would tend to agree. Also - if your bite attack is covered over in bark, wouldn't that drop the damage not increase it?

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But what you are saying is his Bite is worse than his Bark?

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