Where is the Blood Mage and Ghostwalker?


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I always had these pegged as some of the more popular PrCs along with the Bladesinger. Any thoughts?

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MerrikCale wrote:
I always had these pegged as some of the more popular PrCs along with the Bladesinger. Any thoughts?

You may be correct that they are popular PrCs, but they are not OGC and that means that it doesn't matter how popular they are. PrCs similar to them may pop up in the future but direct translations are off limits. And one of the primary goals of the PRPG is to update the core rules (which is also all they can update) so if they spend all their space on PrCs that aren't core that's less room for the ones that are. They already had to drop some of the ones that were in the DMG.


yoda8myhead wrote:
MerrikCale wrote:
I always had these pegged as some of the more popular PrCs along with the Bladesinger. Any thoughts?
You may be correct that they are popular PrCs, but they are not OGC and that means that it doesn't matter how popular they are. PrCs similar to them may pop up in the future but direct translations are off limits. And one of the primary goals of the PRPG is to update the core rules (which is also all they can update) so if they spend all their space on PrCs that aren't core that's less room for the ones that are. They already had to drop some of the ones that were in the DMG.

what makes a Blood Mage off limits but not a Loremaster?

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MerrikCale wrote:
yoda8myhead wrote:
MerrikCale wrote:
I always had these pegged as some of the more popular PrCs along with the Bladesinger. Any thoughts?
You may be correct that they are popular PrCs, but they are not OGC and that means that it doesn't matter how popular they are. PrCs similar to them may pop up in the future but direct translations are off limits. And one of the primary goals of the PRPG is to update the core rules (which is also all they can update) so if they spend all their space on PrCs that aren't core that's less room for the ones that are. They already had to drop some of the ones that were in the DMG.
what makes a Blood Mage off limits but not a Loremaster?

Loremaster was included in the SRD (System Reference Document) and is Open Content. Blood Mage was included in Complete Arcane (which is not produced under the OGL and so is not Open Content). One another publisher can legally use under the terms of the OGL, one they can't.


Paul Watson wrote:
MerrikCale wrote:
yoda8myhead wrote:
MerrikCale wrote:
I always had these pegged as some of the more popular PrCs along with the Bladesinger. Any thoughts?
You may be correct that they are popular PrCs, but they are not OGC and that means that it doesn't matter how popular they are. PrCs similar to them may pop up in the future but direct translations are off limits. And one of the primary goals of the PRPG is to update the core rules (which is also all they can update) so if they spend all their space on PrCs that aren't core that's less room for the ones that are. They already had to drop some of the ones that were in the DMG.
what makes a Blood Mage off limits but not a Loremaster?
Loremaster was included in the SRD (System Reference Document) and is Open Content. Blood Mage was included in Complete Arcane (which is not produced under the OGL and so is not Open Content). One another publisher can legally use under the terms of the OGL, one they can't.

Although nothing is stopping a new version of the Blood Magus with a different name from being created. Let's face it: When you have a feat around called Bloatmage Initiate that deals with the use of blood magic, you have a precident for it. Technically, if a different name is used and some unique features are substituted in, then there shouldn't be any problems with copyrights and non-OGL material. No blood, no foul (pun intended).


i hope we get a one then


MerrikCale wrote:
i hope we get a one then

The point of Pathfinder of course is you can just *use* the Blood Magus from Complete Arcane - it's backwards compatible. About the only thing to change is the Class skills list, and maybe the hit die.


Majuba wrote:
MerrikCale wrote:
i hope we get a one then
The point of Pathfinder of course is you can just *use* the Blood Magus from Complete Arcane - it's backwards compatible. About the only thing to change is the Class skills list, and maybe the hit die.

I like the way Paizo has changed somethings though

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