I have a question in regards to the creation (crafting) of magic items using the metamagic feats. Craft Wand states:
Prerequisite: Caster level 5th. Benefit: You can create a wand of any 4th-level or lower spell that you know.
This implies that you can only imbue a wand with a spell that you know and have in your repertoire of spells.
Craft Wondrous items as well as the Craft rods, staves, etc… all state:
Prerequisite: Caster level 3rd. Benefit: You can create any wondrous item whose prerequisites you meet.
So lets take one as an example:
Hat of Disguise: Construction Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, disguise self; Cost 900 gp
To me this implies that you need to be able to cast the Spell disguise self as well as meet the other costs. The wording in these feats though make it seem that you could use a scroll, using the skill Use Magical device, and cast the disguise self from the scroll to make the hat.
I think the wording should be altered to reflect the proper meaning of these feats. My issue is that if you can make magical items my casting off of a scroll, then I see Bards as being the best Crafters in the game and that does not sit right with me. It seems more likely that the wizard needs to have the spell in his/her book or the sorcerer needs to have the spell as a known spell. I have read other threads that state you can ‘tag-team’ and have someone else cast a spell into the item to enchant is. This seems wrong to me, but can not find the wording in the rules to say ya or nay to these.
Can anyone help with these clarifications?
I have a question in regards to the creation (crafting) of magic items using the metamagic feats. Craft Wand states:
Prerequisite: Caster level 5th. Benefit: You can create a wand of any 4th-level or lower spell that you know.This implies that you can only imbue a wand with a spell that you know and have in your repertoire of spells.
Craft Wondrous items as well as the Craft rods, staves, etc… all state:
Prerequisite: Caster level 3rd. Benefit: You can create any wondrous item whose prerequisites you meet.So lets take one as an example:
Hat of Disguise: Construction Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, disguise self; Cost 900 gpTo me this implies that you need to be able to cast the Spell disguise self as well as meet the other costs. The wording in these feats though make it seem that you could use a scroll, using the skill Use Magical device, and cast the disguise self from the scroll to make the hat.
I think the wording should be altered to reflect the proper meaning of these feats. My issue is that if you can make magical items my casting off of a scroll, then I see Bards as being the best Crafters in the game and that does not sit right with me. It seems more likely that the wizard needs to have the spell in his/her book or the sorcerer needs to have the spell as a known spell. I have read other threads that state you can ‘tag-team’ and have someone else cast a spell into the item to enchant is. This seems wrong to me, but can not find the wording in the rules to say ya or nay to these.
Can anyone help with these clarifications?
This confusion is inherited verbatim from 3.5e. However, the 3.5e PHB refers readers to the DMG for clarification. In the section on creating magic armor, the DMG says
If spells are involved in the prerequisites for making the armor, the creator must have prepared the spells to be cast (or must know the spells, in the case of a sorcerer or bard)
It goes on to clarify that spell slots are expended while the item is being created.
I was under the impression that Pathfinder has no equivalent to the DMG, and rolls the vital bits into a single rule book. I hope this vital bit doesn't get lost.
So the question is, would it not make sense to streamline all of the Item Creation feats and word them the same as:
The creator must have prepared the spells to be cast (or must know the spells, in the case of a sorcerer or bard)
As it stands now, the Craft Wand is worded differently.
So the question is, would it not make sense to streamline all of the Item Creation feats and word them the same as:
The creator must have prepared the spells to be cast (or must know the spells, in the case of a sorcerer or bard)
As it stands now, the Craft Wand is worded differently.
Since all the craft feats are described consecutively, I like the idea of factoring out the details they have in common and putting them ahead of the individual feats.