[Skill: Fly] - gliding / levitating?


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Lantern Lodge

Pathfinder RPG: Skills wrote:

Fly

Special:
Creatures with a fly speed receive this skill for
free as a class skill.

You cannot take this skill without a natural means
of flight or a reliable means of flying every day (either
through a spell or other magical manner, such as a druid’s
wild shape ability).

I can think of several creatures with the ability to glide, but not full flight - Phanatons, Yazarians, Raptorans (sorry, I couldn't find any core MM examples).

We're playing RotRL with a couple of Raptoran characters, and questions have been asked "does glide qualify my character to gain Fly as a class skill for free, or does it only kick in when I gain true flight at 5th level?" This also raises the question whether the ability to cast Levitate qualifies?

Similarly, I would think some of the situations described in the skill description - Attacked while flying, Collision while flying, Avoid falling damage etc - would apply equally whether you were gliding or flying, even Attacked while levitating?

I'd recommend the description be amended to include glide or other means of self-controlled aerial movement.

Lantern Lodge

Pathfinder RPG: Skills wrote:

Fly

Special:You cannot take this skill without a natural means
of flight or a reliable means of flying every day (either
through a spell or other magical manner, such as a druid’s
wild shape ability).

What if the ability to fly was granted via a magic item, such as a ring? Then if the character later lost or sold that item? Then later gained another means of flight?

I think "You cannot take this skill without a reliable means of flying ..." should be amended to "You cannot allocate ranks to this skill without a reliable means of flying ..."

This would make sense, as you can only practice (eg, improve your skill) while you have a reliable means to do so. If the means of flight was lost, you could no longer develop that skill, until such time as you regained a reliable means of flight.

Wayfinders

DarkWhite wrote:
I think "You cannot take this skill without a reliable means of flying ..." should be amended to "You cannot allocate ranks to this skill without a reliable means of flying ..."

That's a good change.


James Hunnicutt wrote:
DarkWhite wrote:
I think "You cannot take this skill without a reliable means of flying ..." should be amended to "You cannot allocate ranks to this skill without a reliable means of flying ..."
That's a good change.

I concur.

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