Will there be a beta 2 release before final?


General Discussion (Prerelease)

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber

Just curious if we are going to get a updated version of the rules before the final release, like a beta 2?


Not as such, no, but there are some updates that deal with certain parts of the game. It's not sure whether those are the final versions or just other tests, but they're there.


I would hope that at least once all the Chapters have been gone over and revised, and there is the period to "overall review" the total changes, that an updated version would be put up. There is certainly a much smaller number of people who are on top of things enough to notice every "point update" that Jason has posted to the forums here. At the least, these should be collected in one place, such as the page where you download the Beta itself. The point of the Open Play-Test is not to give people rules to play their own games, of course, but people need to have reasonable access TO the rules in order to playtest and give relavent feedback.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber
Galnörag wrote:
Just curious if we are going to get a updated version of the rules before the final release, like a beta 2?

I think just like each round of alpha added refinement, it doesn't make sense to go back and comment on an alpha thread because the content is out of date. Much the same will be, or is becoming true of the beta. We could be having a heated discussion about x, where x has already been changed but while we are all kvetching about how it is over powered, under powered, etc the thread is essentially worthless because a decision has been made. So it would be nice for one more iteration of the rules before the publication so that we can refocus and reset our playtest against the cannon.

Sovereign Court

I'd prefer a pdf of changes.

They're not going to make a complete Beta2, presumably, because it'd cannibalise their sales of the final version...


Plain pdf (no art or fancy formatting) with changes or change proposals.
It's hard to evaluate stuff not knowing what goes in.

Regards,
Ruemere

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber
Bagpuss wrote:

I'd prefer a pdf of changes.

They're not going to make a complete Beta2, presumably, because it'd cannibalise their sales of the final version...

True they don't want to cannibalize sales, but the press date is almost 8 months off at this point isn't it? You could squeeze out one more beta in there.

That does raise another question, I think I may start another thread, but since PRPG is built off of D&D3.5 SRD which was OGL, how much of PRPG will be OLG?

Sovereign Court

Galnörag wrote:


That does raise another question, I think I may start another thread, but since PRPG is built off of D&D3.5 SRD which was OGL, how much of PRPG will be OLG?

If I remember right, pretty much all of it. But I could be wrong.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber
Bagpuss wrote:
Galnörag wrote:


That does raise another question, I think I may start another thread, but since PRPG is built off of D&D3.5 SRD which was OGL, how much of PRPG will be OLG?

If I remember right, pretty much all of it. But I could be wrong.

Will there be a PRPG SRD then?

Liberty's Edge

Galnörag wrote:
Bagpuss wrote:
Galnörag wrote:


That does raise another question, I think I may start another thread, but since PRPG is built off of D&D3.5 SRD which was OGL, how much of PRPG will be OLG?

If I remember right, pretty much all of it. But I could be wrong.
Will there be a PRPG SRD then?

I think (although I can't give a certain answer) there won't be an SRD. The OGL will cover the rulebook; you'll just have to buy it if you want to use the system.


Insert Neat Username Here wrote:

I think (although I can't give a certain answer) there won't be an SRD. The OGL will cover the rulebook; you'll just have to buy it if you want to use the system.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but since you can do a lot of stuff with open content, you could just put it all online on a page very much like d20srd.org...

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber
KaeYoss wrote:
Insert Neat Username Here wrote:

I think (although I can't give a certain answer) there won't be an SRD. The OGL will cover the rulebook; you'll just have to buy it if you want to use the system.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but since you can do a lot of stuff with open content, you could just put it all online on a page very much like d20srd.org...

I guess the question was if Paizo will release the OLG content in a easily consumable way (read digital.) So folks like me can turn it into spell books, and character generators with out typing everything in by hand from the book? I don't want the product for free, I want to build off it like they are doing off of 3.5

Paizo Employee Creative Director

There will not be a beta 2 release. There will, I suspect, be some sort of SRD PDF or something like that; we haven't figured out how this is gonna work but the game itself is pretty much gonna be 99.99% open (everything but the names of the deities, I suspect), so an online SRD type thing is sort of a no-brainer...

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