Separating Physical and Cultural racial characteristics


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Ok, I'm not sure what the Polymorph 'fixes' are but the issue has always come up when a character changes races somehow (Polymorph/Reincarnate/Mind Switch) what abilities go and what does he gain?

In most cases groups have to do an all-or-nothing rule or split things up into physical racial traits and cultural racial traits (for example, Stat bonuses are physical, weapon proficiencies are cultural).

Let's do this from the get-go to keep things nice an organized. It will also help for people who want to have "Jungle Elves" in their home campaign, they can just change the cultural stuff. That way you don't get High Elves, Grey Elves, Sun Elves, Wild Elves, Wood Elves and Dark Elves all with different stat bonuses.


Coridan wrote:

Ok, I'm not sure what the Polymorph 'fixes' are but the issue has always come up when a character changes races somehow (Polymorph/Reincarnate/Mind Switch) what abilities go and what does he gain?

In most cases groups have to do an all-or-nothing rule or split things up into physical racial traits and cultural racial traits (for example, Stat bonuses are physical, weapon proficiencies are cultural).

Let's do this from the get-go to keep things nice an organized. It will also help for people who want to have "Jungle Elves" in their home campaign, they can just change the cultural stuff. That way you don't get High Elves, Grey Elves, Sun Elves, Wild Elves, Wood Elves and Dark Elves all with different stat bonuses.

These are the current pathfinder rules for Reincarnation:

A reincarnated creature recalls the majority of its former life and form. It retains any class abilities, feats, or skill ranks it formerly possessed. Its class, base attack bonus, base save bonuses, and hit points are unchanged.Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution scores depend partly on the new body. First eliminate the subject’s racial adjustments (since it is no longer necessarily of his previous race) and then apply the adjustments found below to its remaining ability scores.

The reincarnated creature gains all abilities associated with its new
form, including forms of movement and speeds, natural armor, natural
attacks, extraordinary abilities, and the like, but it doesn’t automatically speak the language of the new form. A wish or a miracle spell can restore a reincarnated character to his or her original form.

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