Let’s ask the Poles...or Georgians.
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Anyone care to return Alaska to the Russians now the Lease has expired?
In consideration of the cession aforesaid, the United States agree to pay at the treasury in Washington, within ten months after the exchange of the ratifications of this convention, to the diplomatic representative or other agent of his Majesty the Emperor of all the Russias, duly authorized to receive the same, seven million two hundred thousand dollars in gold. The cession of territory and dominion herein made is hereby declared to be free and unencumbered by any reservations, privileges, franchises, grants, or possessions, by any associated companies, whether corporate or incorporate, Russian or any other, or by any parties, except merely private individual property holders; and the cession hereby made, conveys all the rights, franchises, and privileges now belonging to Russia in the said territory or dominion, and appurtenances thereto.
By my reading, Russia sold it to the US for $7.2M in gold. Read the emphasized part that says Russia gives up any claims to the land they sold.
Where are you getting hte lease stuff anyway? Is this just another attempt to stir up a meaningless debate (if so, I apparently have taken the bait).
-Skeld
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I think Canada should have it. We have the market cornered on cold-weather tolerating North Americans. Alaskans are infringing on our stereotype!
I'm sure some people think they live in igloos too.
I'm with you. It's attached to us in the middle of nowhere, it should be ours. and enough people think we're all the same anyway. I've met non-canadians surprised Alaska wasn't part of Canada.
Now if you'll excuse me, i have to go feed my polar bear. it's tied up outside the igloo.
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I think Canada should have it. We have the market cornered on cold-weather tolerating North Americans. Alaskans are infringing on our stereotype!
I'm sure some people think they live in igloos too.
I'm with you. It's attached to us in the middle of nowhere, it should be ours. and enough people think we're all the same anyway. I've met non-canadians surprised Alaska wasn't part of Canada.
Now if you'll excuse me, i have to go feed my polar bear. it's tied up outside the igloo.
We would definitely be nicer to Alaska! ;)
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Now if you'll excuse me, i have to go feed my polar bear. it's tied up outside the igloo.Understood. I'm just about done work, so I'd best go get the dogs ready to sled me back home...
Not that funny man ... It was COLD this morning. My son broke out his winter housecoat when he got up early to watch the summer olympics.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I must go check and see if the snowblower is properly fueled.
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Now if you'll excuse me, i have to go feed my polar bear. it's tied up outside the igloo.Understood. I'm just about done work, so I'd best go get the dogs ready to sled me back home...Not that funny man ... It was COLD this morning. My son broke out his winter housecoat when he got up early to watch the summer olympics.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I must go check and see if the snowblower is properly fueled.
Lest any of our gentle readers from south of the border get the wrong idea, not all of Canada is barren wasteland - just the part east of the Rockies ;) Specifically, the interior of BC is a land of gumdrops and lollypops with happiness and sunshine always...
Lest any of our gentle readers from south of the border get the wrong idea, not all of Canada is barren wasteland - just the part east of the Rockies ;) Specifically, the interior of BC is a land of gumdrops and lollypops with happiness and sunshine always...Now if you'll excuse me, i have to go feed my polar bear. it's tied up outside the igloo.Understood. I'm just about done work, so I'd best go get the dogs ready to sled me back home...Not that funny man ... It was COLD this morning. My son broke out his winter housecoat when he got up early to watch the summer olympics.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I must go check and see if the snowblower is properly fueled.
ah, memories of Canada... *sigh*
As a guy who lived there for a while and had to leave (kicking and screaming), I can attest to the truth of all these statements. I miss my polar bear and my igloo.
And the lollypops and sunshine always.
Cheers to all Canadians!
M
Has anyone read The Yiddish Policemen's Union by Michael Chabon? The story is set in Sitka, Alaska which (alternate history time) is populated by the descendants of the Jews forced out of/escaped from Europe during World War 2 (in the novel, there isn't an Israel because of this). The story itself isn't as engaging as the setting, with Jews of various degrees of devotion dealing with the prospect of losing their home again since the U.S. plans to "revert" the territory to their own control, tensions between the Alaskan Jews and the Native American population and a murder involving the current Messiah candidate of the generation. It's a pretty interesting piece of fiction and I would recommend it mostly for how interesting and unique the setting comes across.
You know, since we're on the subject of Alaska.
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Lest any of our gentle readers from south of the border get the wrong idea, not all of Canada is barren wasteland - just the part east of the Rockies ;) Specifically, the interior of BC is a land of gumdrops and lollypops with happiness and sunshine always...Now if you'll excuse me, i have to go feed my polar bear. it's tied up outside the igloo.Understood. I'm just about done work, so I'd best go get the dogs ready to sled me back home...Not that funny man ... It was COLD this morning. My son broke out his winter housecoat when he got up early to watch the summer olympics.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I must go check and see if the snowblower is properly fueled.
I think what he means to say that everybody who lives west of the rockies has the munchies ALL THE TIME.
I say that even if Russia tried to get Alaska back, we probably wouldn't let them. We never have been much for giving back land to its previous owners, have we?
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Lest any of our gentle readers from south of the border get the wrong idea, not all of Canada is barren wasteland - just the part east of the Rockies ;) Specifically, the interior of BC is a land of gumdrops and lollypops with happiness and sunshine always...Now if you'll excuse me, i have to go feed my polar bear. it's tied up outside the igloo.Understood. I'm just about done work, so I'd best go get the dogs ready to sled me back home...Not that funny man ... It was COLD this morning. My son broke out his winter housecoat when he got up early to watch the summer olympics.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I must go check and see if the snowblower is properly fueled.
...step away from the BC agricultural products...
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Thank you for this thread.
I actually requested some Canada-bashing on July 1st -- Canada Day -- but didn't get a single nibble.
Here is something a little more pro-Canada, anti-USA. ;)
Please don't hate me, I didn't write it!
Thank you for this thread.
I actually requested some Canada-bashing on July 1st -- Canada Day -- but didn't get a single nibble.
Here is something a little more pro-Canada, anti-USA. ;)
Please don't hate me, I didn't write it!
Well, the War of 1812 was really more "U.S. versus British via their colony Canada", but it was still an entertaining song. Besides, it's not like that was the only time Canada beat the U.S. in a fight. If I remember right, one of the reasons Benedict Arnold joined England was that he got shot while leading part of a failed raid on Montreal and no-one respected his contributions.
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Well, the War of 1812 was really more "U.S. versus British via their colony Canada", but it was still an entertaining song. Besides, it's not like that was the only time Canada beat the U.S. in a fight. If I remember right, one of the reasons Benedict Arnold joined England was that he got shot while leading part of a failed raid on Montreal and no-one respected his contributions.Thank you for this thread.
I actually requested some Canada-bashing on July 1st -- Canada Day -- but didn't get a single nibble.
Here is something a little more pro-Canada, anti-USA. ;)
Please don't hate me, I didn't write it!
Well considering there are so many US citizens with jobs in Canadian Border Security and law enforcement, I'm thinking Canadian Suicide Bombers for next first of July...
"Please welcome the Canadian Ambassador..." The Ambassador walked past the gathered VIPs all looking for a handshake befor pausing infront of CIA Director Rice.
"Remember the Maplesyrup!" The Canuk pressed down on the button unleashing a pressure wall of fire and ballbearings...
Has anyone read The Yiddish Policemen's Union by Michael Chabon?
No, but I will now. I'm a fan.
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Godu:
Thanks to global warming, the glaciers are not melting. It's getting friggin' cold up here. Don't ask me why global warming makes Canada colder; ask Al Gore. All I know, is the world is getting warmer and we're getting screwed by the deal.
Yellowdingo:
Are you high?
Jal Dorak:
Why'd ya have to go and bring up the War of 1812. We finally had the Americans talking about us instead of themselves for a change. Do you know how hard it is to get Americans to acknowledge that Canada is a country that can be, you know, blamed for stuff? Usually they think of us as a territory that they have control over but don't really give a s@!& about ... like Guam.
Guam:
I love you Guam. The times we had together were some of the best in my life. Thailand was just an fling. You were the real thing. If you ever decide to kick Uncle Sam to the curb, I can arrange to have some aging Sea Hawk helicopters tow you up and sit you right down beside Prince Edward Island. We'll even build a bridge out to you like we did for them. ... Not good enough? Okay, we'll blow up Prince Edward Island and you can have her place.
Anyone care to return Alaska to the Russians now the Lease has expired?In consideration of the cession aforesaid, the United States agree to pay at the treasury in Washington, within ten months after the exchange of the ratifications of this convention, to the diplomatic representative or other agent of his Majesty the Emperor of all the Russias, duly authorized to receive the same, seven million two hundred thousand dollars in gold. The cession of territory and dominion herein made is hereby declared to be free and unencumbered by any reservations, privileges, franchises, grants, or possessions, by any associated companies, whether corporate or incorporate, Russian or any other, or by any parties, except merely private individual property holders; and the cession hereby made, conveys all the rights, franchises, and privileges now belonging to Russia in the said territory or dominion, and appurtenances thereto.By my reading, Russia sold it to the US for $7.2M in gold. Read the emphasized part that says Russia gives up any claims to the land they sold.
Where are you getting the lease stuff anyway? Is this just another attempt to stir up a meaningless debate (if so, I apparently have taken the bait).
-Skeld
Nothing to see here, people. Just move along. Just one of the people who sold a frozen plastic gorilla suit to a bunch of idiots moving on to their next target.
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Has anyone read The Yiddish Policemen's Union by Michael Chabon? The story is set in Sitka, Alaska which (alternate history time) is populated by the descendants of the Jews forced out of/escaped from Europe during World War 2 (in the novel, there isn't an Israel because of this). The story itself isn't as engaging as the setting, with Jews of various degrees of devotion dealing with the prospect of losing their home again since the U.S. plans to "revert" the territory to their own control, tensions between the Alaskan Jews and the Native American population and a murder involving the current Messiah candidate of the generation. It's a pretty interesting piece of fiction and I would recommend it mostly for how interesting and unique the setting comes across.
You know, since we're on the subject of Alaska.
There was actually some discussion of the US giving up Alaska to the Jews, but the British gave up the Mandate of Palestine, which had been a plan since before WWI. I'm pretty happy we didn't give up Alaska, since it would mean I probably wouldn't be a US citizen right now.
There was actually some discussion of the US giving up Alaska to the Jews, but the British gave up the Mandate of Palestine, which had been a plan since before WWI. I'm pretty happy we didn't give up Alaska, since it would mean I probably wouldn't be a US citizen right now.Has anyone read The Yiddish Policemen's Union by Michael Chabon? The story is set in Sitka, Alaska which (alternate history time) is populated by the descendants of the Jews forced out of/escaped from Europe during World War 2 (in the novel, there isn't an Israel because of this). The story itself isn't as engaging as the setting, with Jews of various degrees of devotion dealing with the prospect of losing their home again since the U.S. plans to "revert" the territory to their own control, tensions between the Alaskan Jews and the Native American population and a murder involving the current Messiah candidate of the generation. It's a pretty interesting piece of fiction and I would recommend it mostly for how interesting and unique the setting comes across.
You know, since we're on the subject of Alaska.
Yeah, that was where the idea came from according to the notes in the back of the book.
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That should be: "Who cares, eh?".
Damn. He can't even get that part straight.
Whuzzat?
Your Canadian mangling of proper English is very confusing.
Do tell again, what is your complaint all about?
I think you mean aboot, eh?
and it's true: west of the rockies is famed for their "agricultural products", east of the rockies all the way to ontario is great amounts of barren wasteland, the easter maritime provinces are notorious for their drunken fishermen (trust me, i've been there) and then there's Quebec. Ah Quebec. are you part of canada? do we count you seperately? who knows? and what's with all the wierd language laws? why is there a delay on games without french manuals? what do you have against Lego? all I have to say is "Je Me Souviens! Vive Le Quebec!"
...eh?
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I think you mean aboot, eh?
*snicker*
and it's true: west of the rockies is famed for their "agricultural products", east of the rockies all the way to ontario is great amounts of barren wasteland, the easter maritime provinces are notorious for their drunken fishermen (trust me, i've been there) and then there's Quebec. Ah Quebec. are you part of canada? do we count you seperately? who knows? and what's with all the wierd language laws? why is there a delay on games without french manuals? what do you have against Lego? all I have to say is "Je Me Souviens! Vive Le Quebec!"
...eh?
I always thought Quebec was your punishment for not joining the US when you had the chance.
:-P
The martime provinces are of course your punishment for tolerating Quebec.
0:)
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Uh....there's a line. I got skilz like dat.How many firkins of firewood is that gold worth?*SNORT* *CHOKE* Cough.
You owe me a new keyboard.
-Skeld
ok, so because I got bored, like really bored, I actually managed to convert that. 7.2M in gold(1867) is approximately equal to 970.9B firkins of firewood, which is about 451B cubic feet of wood.
conversions i did to get here:
amount of gold (1867) -> troy ounces
Troy ounces -> amount of gold (2007)
amount of gold (2007) -> amound of wood (cords)
amount of wood (cords) -> amount of wood (Firkins)
i used approximately 75$/cord since pricing guids i've see put it between 50 and 100$/cord so i averaged it. a firkin is a container (usually for ale or wine) that measures 10in in diameter and 10in deep) and my source for the gold prices is http://www.nma.org/pdf/gold/his_gold_prices.pdf
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Uh....there's a line. I got skilz like dat.How many firkins of firewood is that gold worth?*SNORT* *CHOKE* Cough.
You owe me a new keyboard.
-Skeld
ok, so because I got bored, like really bored, I actually managed to convert that. 7.2M in gold(1867) is approximately equal to 970.9B firkins of firewood, which is about 451B cubic feet of wood.
** spoiler omitted **
Is that what it was in firkins of firewood in 1867? If not then the conversion really isn't in perspective....*snicker*....and should be done to ....*snicker*...reflect the then current market. *snicker*...I expect those numbers soon! *snicker*....
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Guam:I love you Guam. The times we had together were some of the best in my life. Thailand was just an fling. You were the real thing. If you ever decide to kick Uncle Sam to the curb, I can arrange to have some aging Sea Hawk helicopters tow you up and sit you right down beside Prince Edward Island. We'll even build a bridge out to you like we did for them. ... Not good enough? Okay, we'll blow up Prince Edward Island and you can have her place.
Wait, you said you liked Guam, and now you want to destroy it in a fiery helicoptor crash?!
For those of you who don't know, our helicoptors are a joke. We have about 5 rescue helicoptors, and one crashes about every year.